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Old 04-09-2009, 03:28 PM
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Coop,

Thanks for your input. I would like to know what appeals to you in the 3rd image. Is it the size to backround ratio?

The shadow has been almost entirely eliminated and I reposted the 4th image to show that. I did change it to a shadow coming from 12 instead of 10 per your suggestion, but it is in another revision, not shown here. Considering my softbox is directly behind what I photograph I should have added the shadow from that same angle. You are right the shadow got a little out of control .

You have a very good eye to catch these mistakes of mine. I almost actually prefer to extract the objects, then I can place them exactly where I need them to be. I know it's technically cheating, but is kind of fun.


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Hi Barbara,

You're addicted to perfection! I love the tight cropping on the final image. The knife and sheath are the attention-getters all the way.

What's worse than a PS shadow? NO PS shadow if it needs one. He he he. Although the cropping is great, it doesn't look natural. Put some of that darker PS shadow in there (Look at the depth of shadow on the real photo. Try to match that.) I would even burn the background under the sheath to make it a true gradient shadow, as the natural one is.

Jeez, I need to submit some of my own to get my arse taught a lesson. Serves me right!

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Old 04-10-2009, 03:05 PM
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By George, I think you've got it.
That last version is quite nice.


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Can you elaborate more on cropping in the backround.
I spent all of twenty minutes on this less than stellar photo to illustrate what I was saying.


It's nothing more than another graphic device to create interest.

(I even added some hamfisted photoshop airbrush shadows for Coop )

The extraction could be better as well as the composition, but I think one can see how there is a little more 'eye motion' and interest created by the bits of knife breaking into the border.

Also note how the border looks balanced even though the bottom is slightly thicker than the other 3 sides.

Hope that helps explain


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Old 04-10-2009, 04:18 PM
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Ebbtide,

Thanks for the response. A very interesting technique, I have once again learned something new. So many great ideas.


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Ebbtide,

A great example. I knew just what you were talking about, but your example speaks volumes. Perfect cropping. Love that shadow.... Nice little inset to compliment.

The Godfather of knife photography is certainly Jim Weyer. He no longer does much custom work that I know of, but his work for the AG Russell catalogs has made AG's 'look' signature.
Here's an example of this style selling nicely:



(I'm loving those CRKT Crawfords!)

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Thanx Coop.
I really like the fade background crop in that AG/Weyer shot.
Knives don't look to shabby either...


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