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Advice from a tight wad
Ok guys after years of useing economy belts I bought some good ones. The 3M ceramic from Pop's. Man what a differance. Normally I would use 3 to 4, 36grit belts on a blade ,rough shapeing and grinding off scale after forgeing and HT. Saturday I did 3 blades with one belt and she's still cutting. The dust doesn't even look the same.
The econo belts make a powder type dust. These new belts make piles of what looks like steel wool. Here's the math to back it up. 1- knife, 4 econo belts at $3.20 each = $12.80per knife 3+ knives, 1 ceramic belt at $6.30 = $2.10 per knife ( Belt is still cutting extremly well) So I am sold. If your thinking about it just do it you won't be sorry. The only thing about these ceramic belts is that you have to grind hard with them. Don't be scared you'll tear it up. |
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I agree, ceramics are the bomb! and who can beat Pop's....
I am using from 60 to 220 in them. I don't get quite as good perfomance from the 220s as the 60's but its much better than AO's. "Tightwad" Andy...say it ain't so! I call that "economies of defined frugality" __________________ Dennis "..good judgement comes from experience, experience comes from poor judgement.." -Gary McMahan, a cowboy poet and good dancer. http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/p...24112090995576 |
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Thanks Andy, think ill give them a try. Been wanting to for awhile but the price was stopping me.
What about the speed? __________________ boo |
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boo,
Run them hard and fast as you can. Don't baby these belts its bad for them. |
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Thats some thing I learned a while back,Cheapest price isn't always the cheapest way.
And good belts grind better. Stan |
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3M ceramic belts and Pops... Not a bad combination.
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Thanks, Andy! As an unapologetic tightwad, I sometimes need another tightwad to give me a push in the right direction. I'll check out the ceramics.
__________________ Kurt Huhn pipecrafter@pipecrafter.com http://www.pipecrafter.com |
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I used to get discount belts and discovered that I was being penny wise and pound foolish. I the long run, the cheap belts cost more money. People like Ed Caffrey were saying this all along but I didn't think that there could be that much difference, but beleave me, there is.
Doug Lester __________________ If you're not making mistakes then you're not trying hard enough |
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One thing I will add i dont use the ceramic belts for wood or micarta. They will gum up really fast but will last forever on metal.
__________________ Proverbs 27:17 As iron sharpens iron, one man sharpens another. Check out my website. www.crystalcreekknives.com |
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I was thinking the whole time I was grinding "Its about time to change belts" But, the thing just kept cutting.
I always told my son's that if you buy something for yourself, Buy the very best you can afford. If you don't your just cheating yourself. If you'll cheat yourself, God only knows how you'll treat other people.( Words of my Grandfather). Funny how we often don't take our own advice. |
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Another good thing to learn is not to over use the good belts. Frank
__________________ Without collectors there would not be makers. |
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Agree with you 100%!! Ceramic is the best!!
Frank __________________ ?Happiness... it lies in the joy of achievement, in the thrill of creative effort.? Franklin D. Roosevelt |
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I use ceramics for hoggers and 120s, but still keep plenty of cheap AOs for handle materials and whatnot.
Come to think of it, it may be time to call Tracy with an order... __________________ Andy Garrett https://www.facebook.com/GarrettKnives?ref=hl Charter Member - Kansas Custom Knifemaker's Association www.kansasknives.org "Drawing your knife from its sheath and using it in the presence of others should be an event complete with oos, ahhs, and questions." |
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