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Fine Embellishment Everything from hand engraving and scrimshaw to filework and carving. The fine art end of the knifemaker's craft.

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Old 12-30-2004, 10:26 AM
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resist for etching

Is there any problem with using the asphaltum that they sell in art supply stores as a resist for etching knives? If you have any other suggestions please include suppliers.
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Old 12-30-2004, 10:39 AM
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check the back pages of fine embellistment for Antonio's photo tutorial of resist etching on knife blades. Dick Blick art supply carries everything you need except the acid.

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Old 12-30-2004, 04:32 PM
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Dear friend

The asphalt you can use to make engravings to the strong water "; they usually use it the jewelers (for the silver).
But the alone asphalt, I don't recommend it to you.

Mix :

1 part of wax virgin
1 part of resin (rosin )
3 parts of commercial polish

this previous mixture, is very good and superior to the asphalt.( it tints of better quality )

Montejano (Spain )
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El asfalto se puede utilizar para hacer grabados al " agua fuerte " ; suelen utilizarlo los joyeros( para la plata) .
Pero el asfalto solo , no se lo recomiendo a usted .

Mezcle :

1 parte de cera virgen
1 parte de resina ( colofonia )
3 partes de bet?n comercial

esta mezcla anterior , es muy buena y superior al asfalto .( tinta de mejor calidad )

Montejano ( Espa?a )
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Old 12-31-2004, 10:00 PM
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Hello Montejano;

Question on these ingrediants:

1 part of wax virgin
1 part of resin (rosin )
3 parts of commercial polish

Do they come as a Liquid? and if not how would I mix them to get it like ink to apply with a dip pen? Also, Please excuse my lack of knowledg,but what is Commercial Polish?

Is there a web site to get all these supplies that you could give a link or addresse to?

It also would help me if you could give the specific brand names. That way I can look them up and read about them to give me a better understanding.

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Paul


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Old 01-01-2005, 04:24 AM
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Friend Paul

The component that he/she comes in liquid state is: Commercial polish (Called judea polish); they are sold in stores of handiworks or of fine arts and it is very easy of getting.
Resin (Rosin)----he/she comes in solid state (in stone form) he/she can that it is not he easy to get. he/she can buy a varnish boat to protect the crafts or similar. there are commercial varnishes that are very good and they make the function of the rosin.
Wax virgin,----- he/she comes in solid state and it is very easy of getting in stores of paintings or handiworks.


If it gets the 3 components the mixture it is very easy of carrying out.
The wax--- it is introduced in an empty recipient and we place it to the bathroom mar?a inside another recipient with water boiling. until it founds the wax.
The strong varnish of quick drying--- (of the one better than he/she finds to protect the crafts or to protect wood to the exterior) it can serve him very bi?n.

Judea polish (he/she already comes in liquid state )

When the wax is fused and liquid, they are added the polish and the varnish of quick drying. they mix bi?n the 3 components.

To allow to cool the mixture. Once fry you can already use, but I advise to allow one month to happen so that the ink settles and work better.

But he/she can also ask in stores of fine arts, for an antacid ink; they already sell inks prepared. they can be carried out many types of antacid inks, but the previous mixture is very good.

I don't know in the net a locus in quo to be able to her to request. I get ready my component ones and I don't buy materials in the net.

He/she can try that bi?n translates it to English; through some friend of the forum that understands bi?n Spanish.

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Montejano.

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Amigo Paul

El componente que viene en estado l?quido es : Bet?n comercial ( Llamado bet?n de judea ); se venden en tiendas de manualidades o de bellas artes y es muy f?cil de conseguir.
Resina ( Colofonia )---- viene en estado s?lido ( en forma de piedra ) puede que no le sea f?cil de conseguir .Puede comprar un bote de barniz para proteger las embarcaciones o similar .Hay barnices comerciales que son muy buenos y hacen la funci?n de la colofonia .
Cera virgen, -----viene en estado s?lido y es muy f?cil de conseguir en tiendas de pinturas o manualidades .


Si consigue los 3 componentes la mezcla es muy f?cil de realizar .
La cera---se introduce en un recipiente vacio y lo colocamos al ba?o mar?a dentro de otro recipiente con agua hirviendo .Hasta que funda la cera .
El barniz fuerte de secado r?pido ---( del mejor que encuentre para proteger las embarcaciones o para proteger maderas al exterior ) le puede servir muy bi?n .

Bet?n de judea ( viene ya en estado l?quido )

Cuando la cera est? fundida y l?quida , se le a?aden el bet?n y el barniz de secado r?pido .Se mezclan bi?n los 3 componentes .

Dejar enfriar la mezcla . Una vez fria ya se puede utilizar , pero aconsejo dejar pasar un mes para que la tinta se asiente y trabaje mejor .

Pero tambi?n puede preguntar en tiendas de bellas artes , por una tinta anti?cida ; venden tintas ya preparadas .Se pueden realizar muchos tipos de tintas anti?cidas , pero la mezcla anterior es muy buena .

No conozco en la red un lugar donde poderla pedir .Yo me preparo mis componentes y no compro materiales en la red .

Puede intentar que se lo traduzcan bi?n al ingl?s ; a trav?s de alg?n amigo del foro que entienda bi?n el Espa?ol .

Un abrazo

Montejano .
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Old 01-01-2005, 11:48 AM
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Thank you My Friend;

I understand now.

When I get ready I will have much fun as I learn to use this method safely and correctly.
Thank you again friend.

Paul


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