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Old 12-18-2005, 04:29 AM
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New file guide design.

Please take a look at attached pics with my own file guide design.

A couple month ago I made a "classic" file guide like this one:
http://www.riversidemachine.net/item349582.ctlg
It was a lot of work to make two bars and top plate with a hole that also needs to be heat treated to make it really hard(which makes it brittle too)

My design is using cheap ball bearings from skates. You can buy a set of 8 for $3.
I consider my design better because all needed materials are cheap(BB, scrap metal, screws, washers) no heat treatment too.
You can easily make one in 15 minutes. When you wear down ball bearings with files or belts you can quickly replace them.

I made one like on CAD picture but don't have a digital camera to post actual picture of my jig.
BTW On my jig I am using two screws to hold blade in place but on my CAD pictures show just one. It'll be probably enough.

Please let me what you think about it.

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Old 12-18-2005, 12:35 PM
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Interesting design. It will reduce the wear and tear on the file. That will only work, though, on the plunge. I only use my file guide to square up the back of the ricasso so the guard fits flush on partial tang blades.

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Old 12-18-2005, 01:32 PM
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Hi Alex:

Interesting. The pictures look like is is good fo filing along the "flat" of the blade.

Could it be used so filing could be done across the spine of the Blade like for thumb serrations or decorative filework?


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Old 12-18-2005, 05:18 PM
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Here it is. Please see attachment.
Ball bearings attached by screws not shows on pictures.

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Old 12-18-2005, 05:59 PM
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I like them both. The wheels are a very good idea.

Do you sell them?

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Old 12-18-2005, 07:30 PM
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so the file rides on the wheels?

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Old 12-18-2005, 07:53 PM
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Thanks for your interest.
Yes, file rides on wheels. I don't manufacture these jigs, but I'll try to contact some suppliers to see if they are interested in making them.
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Old 12-19-2005, 07:51 AM
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Cool jig, very nice drawings and design. But I am a little confused.
What is it that you are file-ling with it? Shoulders at the recoso (plunge)? Flats for fitting a guard?
what if it's a hidden tang knife? or maybe all of the above?
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Old 12-19-2005, 11:11 PM
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Darren,

first jig is for ricasso plunge cut, second one for file work on blade's back and squaring ricasso area so guard fits tight.
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Old 12-20-2005, 12:09 AM
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I've looked at this a number of times now, and I guess I'm missing it too. Maybe I've used the hardfaced file guides too long and just can't figure this one out. I can see the point of the file riding on the wheels, but what's to keep the file from cutting too deeply or to keep you from torquing the file and gouging something you don't want to? The whole point of filing guides as I know them is having the hardened surface so as to prevent cutting anything below the hardened face of the jig. You might be on to something but it's just not clicking for me.


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Old 12-20-2005, 08:28 PM
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It's pretty simple actually. Take a look at attached pictures.

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ok alex,the plunge cut i can understand.the rest went by me.i can see you've put a lot of thought into this,and you are to be commended for thinking.i could never do that.i just used two pieces of steel,drilled and tapped them,then hardened.for squaring a tang,i can get it just right.i enjoy seeing anything someone has made.


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Old 12-21-2005, 07:46 AM
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Thanks. The pictures helped.
Good thinking.


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Old 12-24-2005, 08:08 AM
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Alex, That's a work of art compared to the one I slapped together. I just wanted to see how well these worked so I took some scrap stainless angle iron that looks like it came out of a refrigerator. Drilled two holes and bolted it together. Used it on the KMG and it worked like a charm.


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