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Heat Treating and Metallurgy Discussion of heat treatment and metallurgy in knife making. |
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New steel to me -
Gentlemen and scholars- I've got a fellow requesting a knife made from either AUS-8, H-1, VG-10 or 1095....... I don't know where he got all those ideas but he is a collector of sorts so here we go- said he preferred H-1.
I've never heard of H-1 I've hears some about VG-10 and Aus-8 and of course 1095. Alas I have not worked with any of the above. So I have a lot of questions- The knives he wants are going to be 12" OAL hidden tang hunters. What can you tell me about these steels or comparisons of them for general hunting usage. I have worked with 0-1, 440C and ATS-34 but either he doesn't like these or thinks they are inferior. Given each of the above workability, should I jump into trying one of them or convince him to go with what I know or send him elswhere? He has a brother and friends that have my knives and apparantly likes my work- and I told him I was unfamiliar with those steels but would look into the possibility. Thanks __________________ Dennis "..good judgement comes from experience, experience comes from poor judgement.." -Gary McMahan, a cowboy poet and good dancer. http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/p...24112090995576 |
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"H1" is a steel used by Spyderco. It is a precipitation hardening steel, rich in ad hype and dripping with sexy claims of super superiority.
__________________ Perfection is a process, not a goal. Perfection is a journey, not a destination. |
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He sounds like a wannabe steel snob to me, but his particular tastes are rather baffling, since H1 is known for corrosion resistance and little else, and AUS-8 is popular with....well, no one. You probably won't be able to get H1, AUS-8 or VG-10 since they are not generally available from knife steel suppliers. 1095, being a very shallow hardening steel, would be difficult to use without some trial and error first.
You can tell him that if he truly wants a high performance knife, he'll request a steel you have experience with, since heat treatment is more important than steel choice. Or you can send him elsewhere, as you said. |
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I don't have a ton of experience taking orders, but I have a little. I also know many knifemakers who do or have taken orders. It is my opinion that this could end up being a customer who wants far too much control and input and makes the process very unsatisfying for you. I would tell him what steels I was willing to use and make it clear where I stood on input/direction on the order after placed. It might cost you an order, but either way it will save you heartache.
__________________ Cap Hayes See my knives @ knives.caphayes.com This quote pains me: -- "Strategically placed blood grooves control blood spray in covert deanimation activities." -- |
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Thank you Gentlemen! All sage advice which I will take fully to heart!
__________________ Dennis "..good judgement comes from experience, experience comes from poor judgement.." -Gary McMahan, a cowboy poet and good dancer. http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/p...24112090995576 |
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