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Old 09-05-2006, 02:23 AM
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I got a little mill

I got this little mill by helping sell some tools from a local machine shop. It is old and I need to clean it up and replace the 3 phase 1HP motor with a single phase motor (now that hunt begins). It is tight and smooth, no damage to the table or its mechanisms. Need to find tooling but at least I got the machine as a start.



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Old 09-05-2006, 07:35 AM
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Looks real solid. Not much shift in that thing. Looks like you are ready to have some fun.
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Old 09-05-2006, 08:31 AM
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I'm no expert but that thing looks really old. Like, early 20th Century. Sometimes, if it's been well taken care of, those are the best kind. You can't kill 'em no matter what you do to 'em.

Any markings on it? Maker? ID Plate?

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Old 09-05-2006, 12:47 PM
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Should I oil or grease the moving parts? I would guess grease but not sure.
I will look it over closer today. It has been painted several times and paint is peeling off. There may be a plate or something, I don't know because I was more interested in the moving parts.


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Old 09-06-2006, 11:49 PM
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I wouldn't brag too much about having a "little" mill.

Just kidding buddy. Looks like a great find.
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Old 09-07-2006, 12:16 AM
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Little ain't bad, if it works well.

Seems like it may be a problem getting it working though. I can't find collets for it. The place I buy stuff has not seen collets like this. It is similar to the 5C collets but has different threads. I took it to a huge machine shop and they got the three oldest guys in the shop in there looking at it and nobody recognized what it is and could not help me.

The face of it is stamped 1/2" but there is nothing else stamped there.

Jerry suggested a double angle collet system and I will check that out. Would like to convert it to a more popular kind if possible. ####, nothing is easy or inexpensive.

This will probably have to sit in a corner for a year or so until I can get back on my feet and have the cash to spend on it or until I sell it to someone who can fix it and get it running.


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Old 09-07-2006, 04:19 PM
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You just need to get a lathe and make your own collets!


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Old 09-07-2006, 04:57 PM
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Lightbulb Now there's an idea

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Originally Posted by Don Halter
You just need to get a lathe and make your own collets!
You know sometimes it's actually cheaper to have those things made if you can't do it yourself. I have a much bigger mill/drill, but no place to use it. It has been in storage with my lathe and other metal working tools for the last 3 years.

Count yourself lucky to have a place for it.

Looks like a nice little mill though.

Keep em sharp.
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Old 09-07-2006, 05:52 PM
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The collet could be a Van Norman "C" collet aka a 5V Here's a link to some dimensional drawings. link there was a Van Norman 1/2 universal mill and the collets looks similar to the 5c link

Hope this helps

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Old 09-23-2006, 10:26 PM
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Here is a web page I created with pictures of the mill. If you can help me identify the mill, I may be able to find out what the collet is.

Sure wish I had a lathe and the ability to use it.

http://www.warnerknives.com/craigslist/mill.htm


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Old 09-24-2006, 09:21 AM
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here a link to some picture of all kinds of mills and lathes....... maybe its on there..

http://www.lathes.co.uk/page21.html


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Old 09-24-2006, 09:23 AM
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The folks at Practical Machinist forum may be able to help:

http://www.practicalmachinist.com/cg...ultimatebb.cgi

They are very savvy and have an antique machine tool forum.

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Old 09-24-2006, 09:39 AM
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The closest I can get is the Knee(base) looks a lot like this one but the head is totally different. maybe they built/replaced the head there's a few other differences like the bolt pattern on the end of the table.

As for the collets need some measurements here's a chart that may help CHART

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Old 09-24-2006, 10:08 AM
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Have you tried these places yet?
http://www.antiquemachinery.com/
http://www.smokstak.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=32
http://www.mmsonline.com/dp/forums/index.cfm?pub=MMS
http://www.angelfire.com/ks/mcguirk/mwlinks.html
Somebody on these sites must know something. Good luck! akraven
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Old 09-24-2006, 10:07 PM
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I bet you can get that mill up and running Bob. I have a lathe, but I'm afraid that the collet in the picture is way beyond my capabilities. Maybe Don in the valley could shed some light on the difficulty in machining a set of them.


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