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High-Performance Blades Sharing ideas for getting the most out of our steel.

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Old 10-06-2004, 03:11 PM
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S30v sword

I am very interested in a katana made from s30v. Can any one tell me if they have had a sword made from this steel and how well it performs. Also can any one recomend a custom maker for me?
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Old 10-06-2004, 08:52 PM
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From what i've heard, stainless is a too brittle for a blade of that length. personaly i have no experience in it though.

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Old 10-07-2004, 12:54 AM
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While Kyle is right for the most part, s30v just might be tough enough to be an exception, it's the only stainless I've heard about that I'd concider acceptable. No info to help you out though Ssj2, have you tried http://www.swordforum.com ?


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Old 10-08-2004, 10:29 AM
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If you read my posts in the other threads recently, you'll see the problems. S30V would do fine in a sword. It's plenty tough.

I guess I'm required to repeat this every few months. Stainless steel is only "brittle" is it's not handled properly in the blademaking process. End of periodic rant...


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Old 10-08-2004, 12:16 PM
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I believe that Barry Dawson has been successfully making katanas with 440C for years.


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Old 10-08-2004, 12:35 PM
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I believe that Barry Dawson has been successfully making katanas with 440C for years.
Tinker Pierce makes a good many swords in 440C as well, and has demonstrated their utility and toughness on a number of occassions. The problem with S30V is that it is not all forgiving in its heat treating needs.


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Old 10-08-2004, 02:24 PM
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Can s30v be differentially tempered and if so what rc should the edge and spine be?
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Old 10-08-2004, 07:56 PM
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S30V is a complex steel that requires great care in heat treating.It would not be a good idea to try to differentially temper. Any heat treatment of steels like this are not something for beginners. S30V is the best stainless knife steel and should work fine for a sword too.
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Old 10-08-2004, 10:07 PM
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If s30v can't be differentially tempered then what rc should I use for the over all blade?
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Old 10-18-2004, 08:20 PM
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Any body there???
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Old 10-20-2004, 11:14 AM
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Sorry, I was napping...

I'd probably go with about Rc57-58. That's what I used with A2 with good results.


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Old 10-21-2004, 07:49 PM
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Thanks Jerry now I just need to know who can make me one of these swords.

Oh yea 3v is tougher then s30v but s30 is more were resitant and is stainless where 3v is not right?

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Old 10-22-2004, 09:50 AM
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Wear resistance isn't much of an issue with swords. In fact with any blade that is likely to experience hard impacts, I think 3V will outwear other steels primary because microchipping will be greatly reduced and that is a bigger component of edge holding than abrasive wear with such blades.


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Old 10-23-2004, 10:19 PM
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So s30v is only more resitant then 3v when it comes to abrasive were?
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Old 10-24-2004, 10:54 AM
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I hope Jerry doesn't mind that I jump in here but I think what he is getting at is that in a sword, abrasion resistance isn't as important as toughness (impact resistance). I would suggest that for a custom order of a specialty knife(sword) that you let the maker pick the steel but let him know what you expect the blade to do performance wise and how you want to use it.

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