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Old 09-16-2004, 01:23 PM
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Home Built HT Furnace

Just about finished my home built HT furnace that is good for 2300 oF.

Looking forward to be able to treat some stainless steel

I Have created a PDF file with an account of how I went about the construction for anyone who might be interested.

All I'm waiting for at the moment is a digital control for reading and maintaining temperature. Also will be able to control ramping up and down.

http://www.freewebs.com/knifemaking/...entfurnace.htm


This is a photo of the furnace just warming up...could'nt resist having a look!!!

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Old 09-16-2004, 03:21 PM
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Thanks, great tutorial. I wish I had had this before I built mine. Not nearly as nice as yours.
I hope they move this into the tutorials section since it is a regular question in the newbie forum.
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Old 09-16-2004, 03:36 PM
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Thanks, great tutorial. I wish I had had this before I built mine. Not nearly as nice as yours.
I hope they move this into the tutorials section since it is a regular question in the newbie forum.
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Thanks Steve, If the moderators want to put it up as a tutorial, thats fine by me.

I was really amazed at the results I've got with this project and would encourage anyone to have a go at building one. I got a lot of the information from a book by David Gingery

Title " Li'l Bertha, a compact electric Resistance shop furnace" by Lindsay Publications.
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Old 09-16-2004, 04:12 PM
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AWESOME! I've been looking for something like this for a while. Thanks for putting that up!

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Old 09-16-2004, 04:42 PM
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Andy.

That is awesome!!

I am definately going to build one. I have wanted to buy one for a log time but the thousand bucks was a bit much.

How has it been working? how stable and controllable is the temp? I will probably answer my own questions as I finish reading your article.

OK , one more, what was your final cost?

I'll have to buy a welder so I can put the frame together....(see how that works ; ) uh huh) then I'll be in business. I will buy a wire feed welder for my shop and build this baby and still save some $$

Thank you sir!!

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Old 09-17-2004, 02:46 AM
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Andy.

That is awesome!!

I am definately going to build one. I have wanted to buy one for a log time but the thousand bucks was a bit much.

How has it been working? how stable and controllable is the temp? I will probably answer my own questions as I finish reading your article.

OK , one more, what was your final cost?

I'll have to buy a welder so I can put the frame together....(see how that works ; ) uh huh) then I'll be in business. I will buy a wire feed welder for my shop and build this baby and still save some $$

Thank you sir!!

Mike
Hi Mike

I'm glad you like it, you are building one for the same reasons as me..Cost! This without the digital control runs me about ? 130.00 Less than $300.00 Canadian

With regards tohow stable it is , this is down to the control you use. at the moment I'm waiting for a digital control and this will be VERY stable.

If you look at the photo on the forum you can see another furnace to the left of the new one . This has a digital control and I can maintain within about 5 C.

Another method you could use for the frame is perforated angel and bolt it together instead of welding...just a thought!

Andy..

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Old 09-17-2004, 04:37 AM
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Andy,

I will definately look into a digital controll . I would want it as accurate as possible. If I were to spend half of what it would cost to buy one I'd be a happy man. I really like anything I can build myself rather than dish out the extra money , unless the quality just can't be made at home.

Yeah I could bolt it up...but then I won't have a welder. I have been wanting one for a long time , and this project would be perfect for one. ....Just an excuse for me to pick one up..

It will be a while before I start building mine. I am in the process of getting building permits for my new shop, then that will be my focus for a while , then forge some tools,some wood work for the house and then my oven.

I like it tho, Looks like exactly what my new shop will need.


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Old 09-17-2004, 06:24 AM
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Thumbs up That's right !

Thank you for this tutorial and sharing your informations
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Old 09-17-2004, 09:08 AM
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Really nice, Andy.

I've been using my Paragon now for at least 15 years. It's rated at 2000 degrees. If I could get it up to 2300 like yours, I'd make some of my blades from M2 HSS.

I need to contact Paragon and ask if the elements can be exchanged for 2300 elements.
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Old 09-17-2004, 09:20 AM
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Old 09-17-2004, 12:16 PM
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Really nice, Andy.

I've been using my Paragon now for at least 15 years. It's rated at 2000 degrees. If I could get it up to 2300 like yours, I'd make some of my blades from M2 HSS.

I need to contact Paragon and ask if the elements can be exchanged for 2300 elements.
Hi Don

Nice to hear from you

You have to make sure the elements are made from Kanthal wire and NOT Nickel Chrome.

Andy..
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Old 09-19-2004, 11:45 AM
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Outstanding work Andy and even more so for sharing it with us. Thank you.
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Old 10-06-2004, 11:10 AM
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Thanks Steve, If the moderators want to put it up as a tutorial, thats fine by me.

I was really amazed at the results I've got with this project and would encourage anyone to have a go at building one. I got a lot of the information from a book by David Gingery

Title " Li'l Bertha, a compact electric Resistance shop furnace" by Lindsay Publications.
Hi, after reading your tutorial I'm convinced in trying to build a furnace instead of buying one. But I've got a couple of questions...

1. Does the furnace body need to be specifically made of the same material you used or is any steel sheet useable? Was thinking of using an old computer cpu case for the chasis. Also, how much insulation does the firebrick provide, does the steel chasis also get hot?

2. Are the firebricks somehow glued together or is it simply held in place by the steel chasis?

3. For two 2300 ?F Max Kanthal Heating Element what is the recommended maximum size of the inner chamber? And do you know how long it'll take to reach 2300 ?F at that maximum inner chamber size? It only says 9 to 12 inches diameter but doesn't provide a depth.

4. I was also thinking of making one big enough for swords, for an inner chamber of 2 feet depth x 6 inches width x 3 inches height how many heating elements would be required? Can you give a formula or something for calculating this.

5. Is it hard to regulate the temperature with just the manual controls (the knob)? I'll probably get digital controls too, but just wanted to ask about the manual first.

Thanks in advance.
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Old 10-06-2004, 11:56 AM
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Let's complete the Home built HT furnace with a Home built digital controller. It was for glass kilns but it's basically the same as one for an electric furnace.

http://toblerglasscreations.com/fuji/
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Old 10-06-2004, 12:19 PM
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Great looking furnace, Andy! I've had it in the back of my mind to build one myself and I'm sure your information will help make that a reality.

Thanks for posting this project.......


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