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Thanks Steve..
That makes good sense......I've heard that Bob makes a good knife...... __________________ Lloyd Hale |
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Great knives! Great prices.
__________________ http://www.srjknives.com NRA Endowment Member Knifemakers' Guild Member since 1971 "May you live all the days of your life." - Jonathan Swift |
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D-2
Lloyd.....
The D-2 which Sheffield sells is (I think) the same as the D-2 Which Bob Schrimsher used to sell...It takes a better polish than the precision ground stuff. I'm told it's because the precision ground bars are re-sulphurised. D-2 does stay sharp well in service. I got away from it in the late 70s because vasco wear was better, though much tougher to grind and hand sand...and got away from that because the mill closed, and 440V is still better. |
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Hello Russ
I tried D2 about 30 years ago and realized my prybars needed a more versitile tool steel so I stuck to the stainless series.... A friend of mine in Kentucky says that D2 makes good box cutters and I've been told card board is a good test of a steels wear resistence....Don't make box cutters so that leaves me out... __________________ Lloyd Hale |
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WOW....can't believe that folks are still talking about D2 ! I used D2 for years, mainly because Ted Dowell, Jimmy Lile and Frank Centofante used this steel almost exclusively. Major factor for me was ductility, second was that it is used for paper cutter blades and huge shear blades in carpet mills. It is tough and makes an excellent chopping instrument. I sent a set of blades over to Frosty Morn Packing Co. for a test on mud caked, bristly hogs. Blades included 01, A2,D2, 440C, W2 and F8. In a non-scientific test D2 was the favorite of 3 of 4 meat cutters. BUT.....2 said that it is hard to sharpen on steels. Orange peeling seems to be less prevalent on Latrobe D2 and don't forget to have your heat treat folks double temper and use cryogenic treatment. I still use a good bit of D2 on my larger heavier knives that will be used for chopping. I've had a hard time finding bg42 in 3" wide bars 1/4" thick and problems in finishing ats34. My last 2 batches of ats34 had to be bead blasted due to pits in the steel. D2 deserves our respect. The dies used to stamp out many other so called cutlery steels are frequently made out of D2 ! OK....back to the grinder and a new bar of Chris Marks mosaic that I can hardly wait to see on a knife !
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Hey Tim....YOU DA MAN !!!!
__________________ Lloyd Hale |
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D-2 steel
Guys let me get my 2-cents worth in. First of all D-2 is not cheap steel in any sense of the word. It cost more than 440-C and about the same as 154CM. It holds an edge ever bit as well as 154CM and is almost as corrosion resistant. Where it really shines is in the heat-treatment. You only need to heat treat at 1800 D.F.{5 min. in a salt pot} a 2 hour draw at 450 D.F. and you have a blade that is 59 rockwell and will hold it on with the best of them. The low hardning temp. is very important and the steel is not sensitive to small temp. variations. The orange peel surface is not a problem when .005 to .010" is ground away after heat treating. I have never had a problem getting a nice finish on my D-2 blades and I started using D-2 back in the mid 70's. If I made the type knives that LLOyd makes I would not use D-2 either. LLoyd's knives are works of art, mine are tools.
Fantastic looking knives in the August issue if K.I. The dagger on page 30 is awsome and my favorite--Regards Rade __________________ Be careful when judging others--your turn will come |
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Thanks Rade.... We are so lucky to live in a time when we have all this technology to take advantage of in Steels and grinding and polishing equipment......and to have all these great Collectors loving what we are doing and supporting us.....Now this is the life.......
__________________ Lloyd Hale |
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