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Old 01-27-2011, 10:37 PM
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For Entertainment: Damascus instructions

Just thought those who have worked with pattern welding would get a kick out of this http://www.ehow.com/how_7763578_use-...cus-steel.html
Found it looking at who has links to my site.

"Rebar is inexpensive and is a good material for making Damascus."


"Stack the flattened rebar with alternating layers of high carbon and stainless steel. Sprinkle Borax between the layers to act as flux and help ensure an even weld."

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Old 01-28-2011, 08:40 AM
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Gee, and all these years I've been doing it "the hard way"...using that overpriced steel that I really didn't need to.....and think of all the propane I've wasted getting my billets hotter than "Cherry red".

This is what's wrong with the internet....lots of arm chair experts who have read a book or a forum post, and think they are experts. It's a shame, because you know there are people out there who are going to read that and believe every word of it.


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Old 01-28-2011, 08:57 AM
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I wonder where that push dagger image came from? I don't mind them linking to my site but I would have a problem if they stole photos.

Maybe we can get Kelly to start stocking pre-flattened re-bar.


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Old 01-30-2011, 10:17 AM
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"The filler is often "scrap" ....... heat 5 to 10 minutes..... yes, it's entertainment!! Jon


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In my opinion, ehow.com is so full of misinformation, and downright BAD information, that the entire site is basically useless. All articles there are suspect, and I haven't found an entirely accurate one yet.


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Old 02-01-2011, 01:53 PM
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Well, there's a lot of bad information out there to put into one of these sites. I remember when I was researching knifesmithing that I would run into articles about damascus making that advocated alternating 1095 and 1010/1020 to get good contrast. It was stated that it was the alternaste high and low carbon areas in the finished billet that caused the pattern. I only later found out that after all the folding and welding that it takes to creat the damascus billet that the carbon content became homogenous and what you had was something like 1050 or 1060 with varing bands of manganese runing through them. I also remember reading that the the people who claim to forge weld in a gas forge were just blowing smoke and that the only people who did a hallow grind were those who didn't know how to use a grinder-I assume he was talking about a wheel grinder. This is the problem with the web, there are no editors to look at credintials or run a fact check and any idiot who can type can put out any mis/infomation that they want.

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Old 02-01-2011, 09:10 PM
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it just kills me to think of all the rebar i junked when i could be using it in my blades.lol
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Old 02-01-2011, 09:44 PM
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All kidding aside, there are probably those who have done just exactly that, use a power hammer or a press and flattened some rebar in mix in with some high carbon steel to make damascus.

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I think I'm going to tear up my foundation . Its got to be cheaper than 1084
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I think that at one time or another we have all read (or watched) an article about an accomplished bladesmith who was misquoted or misrepresented by a writer/interviewer who just didn't grasp what was going on. This guy has taken that to another level.


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It's stuff like this that just makes me hate the Internet some days. The good thing is that there's a space to comment at the bottom. I think I'll do that....

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So... I'm new and honestly have no clue on how to make this past reading things like that. However I am interested in how to make Damascus even though I have neither the materials, tools, or experience to do so for the time being.

So how do you make it?
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Old 01-17-2012, 03:51 PM
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R Pope, look at Deker's site, Ed Caffrey's site, read this http://www.matthewdwalker.com/damascus_notes.pdf and get the books and DVDs mentioned at the end.

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Old 01-21-2012, 09:33 AM
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Wow- that's a lot of wrong in one place.
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It made me lol for real! There are a few damascus articles on ther that are out to lunch. Have you guys read this one? http://www.ehow.com/how_7762889_add-...lding-rod.html or this one? http://www.ehow.com/how_7901949_shar...el-knives.html
or the how to polish damascus? http://www.ehow.com/how_6109251_poli...cus-steel.html

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