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Old 12-14-2002, 06:45 PM
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Safety Glasses

Whats the right type
of glasses to use
with a propane forge?
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Old 12-14-2002, 08:24 PM
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I get mine from the local welding store i uvex glasses with number 5 lens .a pair of dark sun glasses might work

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Old 12-15-2002, 12:55 PM
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Mongo, in the video of Jim Hirsulas, he says didieum(sp) which should be able to be had at a welding supply store.
But I know that a dark pair of sunglasses works ok, I got the dark mirrored saftey glasses.

Hows the new gas forge working for you??

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Old 12-15-2002, 01:22 PM
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Here is all we know

http://www.ckdforums.com/showthread....light=dydidium


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Old 12-15-2002, 01:33 PM
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Rob,
If you want to go the high-tech route for glasses you may check this source:

http://www.auralens.com

Very nice people to deal with. I explained to them what I was doing, what type of refractory, temps, etc. They recommended their Aura-99 glass in a 2.0 tint. Seems to work fine for me so far, no "darkspots" in vision or the "gritty feeling" that can come from exposure to UV.

There are some graphs available from them that define the transmission/absorbance of different wavelengths for the various types of glass.

One practice that Bowie has tried to instill in me is to train yourself to glance into the fire at the steel, do not stare into that entrancing mouth of the dragon....
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Old 12-15-2002, 01:53 PM
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Thankyou all,
Im going to send an e-mail
to a local place and see what
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Old 12-16-2002, 09:29 AM
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Oh well, this is what i got back from
the local company that does
"industrial forging"? if thats a word..

We purchase safety glasses, goggles and face shields to meet ANSI
standard Z87.1-1989 or a later ANSI standard for vision protection.
Safety glasses are equipped with side shields. Our safety guidelines
require different equipment depending upon the type of operation being
performed, but glasses with side shields is the minimum requirement for
our operators performing forging operations. We would add that hard
hats, hearing protection, safety shoes or boots, long sleeved shirts,
and long pants are also requirements. We provide various types of
gloves, shoe covers and aprons, when needed.
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Old 12-16-2002, 10:41 AM
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It looks like they're just talking about protection from physical object and not radiation.

So here's a CKD eye-protection recap:

Sunglasses are *bad* because they dilate your pupils and allow even more IR radiation in. That much we know.

After that... some prefer welding lenses and some prefer didymium. I prefer didymium because I can see what I'm doing. Auralens claims to make a lense that blocks more radiation that either welding or didymium lenses; but they aren't rated for physical object protection.

Edited to note that I was wrong in my assertion that the lenses are't rated for impact protection 12/16/02 5:25 PM EST

Definitely go back to the thread that Bob linked up above.


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Old 12-16-2002, 12:37 PM
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Jonathon,
I contacted Auralens and they state that their glasses do meet the appropriate impact protection if the correct models are purchased. I am forwarding this thread address to them and believe they will reply to us direct from the manufacturer. It will be nice to have an expert speak to us concerning this important topic.
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Old 12-16-2002, 01:22 PM
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Thanks Mike, for bringing this board to my attention.

There are a number of filters that are available that can provide what ever filtration type you want or need.

The basic IR filter that we sell is the AUR-99. It is essentially the same as the old Calobar that American Optical used to sell. We have it available in shades 1.7 (visitor specs only), 2.0 and 2.5. Shade 2.5 is pretty dark, and we recommend additional task lighting if you use this filter.

The didymium filters, both the old-fashioned "rose" didymium, and the next-generation AUR-92 filter out the yellow or sodium flare. AUR-92 also filters a couple of additional colors, which will allow you to see your color temperatures much better. The only drawback to these filters is that they do not do a good job of filtering IR. In order to filter the IR AND get sodium flare filtration, you need our filter AGW-186.

Contrary to information printed above, the AGW-186 filter DOES meet Z87 impact standards, provided that the lens is inserted (installed) in a certified Z87 frame.

We also make a similar lens except instead of a clear IR filter, we use a welding filter. This is our AGW-200 Full Coverage filter. With the welding filter, we can achieve up to shade 10 filters PLUS sodium flare filtration.
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Old 12-16-2002, 01:33 PM
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Mike,

Thanks for joining us and helping out.

I did not see prices on the web site. Is there a link to a price list? If not, can you please post the prices for the eyewear you discussed.


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Old 12-16-2002, 01:40 PM
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Bob, prices are listed on my website, here: Metal workers Safety Glasses

I didn't post prices, didn't want to offend anyone or break any rules!

Prices run from $85 to $378 depending on the frame/filter combination.
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Old 12-16-2002, 02:16 PM
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Mike,

You may have messed up by coming here. I have another question for you.

Almost every pair of safety glasses I have ever bought (general safety glasses) have been easily scratched and don't last long before they become useless. They fall off my fat head when forging or bending over to get something or I take them off and put them on the counter and my son (or me) lays hammers and stuff on them. After searching for 30 minutes, you find them and can't see through them.


How will the lenses you sell hold up to a guy like ME. I know that an expensive pair will make me want to take care of them better but I also know I will watch them hit the floor at one time or another. Some of the others people here will not admit it but they are just as bad as I am about this.


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Old 12-16-2002, 02:17 PM
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Thank you, Mike, for taking the time to post here and help us understand a bit more about eye protection.
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Old 12-16-2002, 02:24 PM
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LOL Bob. You are definately NOT alone in this!

Couple of things: first, make sure the glasses properly fit your head and face. Take them to an optician and have them custom fitted to you. They adjust the bridge and temples to make them more comfortable.

Next, use the head cord we supply with each pair. It serves two purposes, first, it keeps the glasses from hitting the floor, and also helps keep them on your head by using the adjustable tightener. Keep them cinched up and they won't (usually) fall off.

Our lenses are glass - glass will certainly stand up longer to abuse than plastic or polycarbonate.

We also have a style (the 9702) that has a built-in head strap. It's basically a pair of basketball (or racquet ball) glasses, but the strap will definately keep them in place.

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