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Old 07-06-2002, 04:25 PM
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Question Steel? Heat treating? $$$? Help please!

Hello everybody,

I've decided that one of my projects for the summer will be to learn how to make knives. I'm not a "kit" person, and I stay as far away from them as possible, but I don't have a forge, nor the strength necessary to lift a blacksmith's hammer (I'm only 5'2"!), so I've decided to go by stock removal. Now, a few questions...

From what I've read, it appears that 0-1 would be a good steel to start with... is it suitable for hand tools? I have no grinder.

I live in the middle of nowhere; nobody around here heat treats. Plus, I like to do things by myself. Is there a way of heat treating with a propane torch? Or does anyone know of a simple way to build a kiln?

Finally... if I do manage to heat treat by myself, would I be able to use used deep-fryer oil to quench in? The restaurant where I work goes through barrels of the stuff, and I'm sure they'd let me have it all.

I think I'll stop now, though I'm sure I'll come up with more questions after I actually start! Thanks a lot!
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Old 07-06-2002, 10:16 PM
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If your dont have it already get the book 'how to make knives' by bob loveless. It shows in great detail how to execute a flat ground blade with hand tools only. Yes 0-1 is a great steel to learn with and works well with hand tools as do others. It is possible to heat treat with a torch, there is a thread in the newbies arena from awile back that will help you get started. Also look into visiting paltalk as well to talk to people with lots of experience on that and other subjects. Also i would reccomend a visit to terry primos web site and read his scale prevention tutorial. Hope this helps a little and welcome to the C.K.D
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Old 07-16-2002, 03:17 PM
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Smile heat treating

o.k. you should get wanye goddard's book $50 knife shop.
the book has topic like heat treating ,one brick forge,homemade
grinders,and belt sanders.

ask a brickmason for soft firebricks.
small propane torch for heat
any oil will work, i can't recommend corn oil,used motor is what i
use.
i use old coffee can,a magnet to check temperture when steel does not go to magnet quench it.then temper in oven at 350
to400 degrees one hour three times.


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Old 07-16-2002, 05:25 PM
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You don't have to be a moose to forge. I know several people that are small that forge. My son Kevin is (Was) only eleven when he forged his first knife. Just don't get a 3.5lb hammer, get something a little lighter.


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Old 07-21-2002, 09:11 AM
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I posted this a while back.....maybe it will help.

http://www.ckdforums.com/showthread....&threadid=4506

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Old 07-25-2002, 10:01 AM
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To Mr. Bob Warner:

I agree! And his knife was very good, IMO, since it has a very clean design.

Even those carpenter's hammer (with a "goat foot" like end, for removing nails) will do the job, I think (I'm crazy for steel forging, but didn't build my forge yet). And you don't need a enormous anvil. A small piece of "I" beam is a good start. I have several ballpein hammers, in a wide range of sizes, including a monstruous 10kg (i don't know the pound weight by head, will have to see the Ultimate conversion chart for values... ). Surely I won't want to use that to make my knives (although it can become an anvil...)

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