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Old 01-04-2004, 02:43 PM
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Question Military Sheath

I'm making a large (7") or so double edged fighter. I was wondering about the amount of straps required by the military. It seems to me, I've heard there must be two.

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A.T.

P.S. Is there much chance, a knife like that will be allowed to be carried by one of America's military?


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Old 01-04-2004, 03:14 PM
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AT - Contact Frank Sigman - he's a moderator here - direct if you don't get any answers soon - he's exmilitary and although his sheaths are kydex he should have the skinny on the requirements if any.
Lots of grunts carry custom knives. Grom what I know a lot will depend on what unit they serve in - Spec Ops for instance have a lot more leeway in what they can carry over say regular line units.


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Old 01-04-2004, 03:54 PM
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Hi, A.T.

I've made a couple of custom fighters on request for current military men and the sheaths have had no specs. The soldier and I simply agreed on what seemed best.

It seems that at least some of our fighting men and women have some latitude in what they can carry.

Or, maybe it's still as it was in my days. Rank has its priviledges.
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Old 01-04-2004, 04:49 PM
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Thanks guys, I emailed Frank for more information.

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This is what Allen Elishewitz
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. The sheath must not absorb moisture, crack, dry rot or tear. It must not reflect light or make a sound when drawing the knife. The two best materials for combat sheaths are Kydex and nylon. Both are extremely durable and will not rust the blade. The ideal combination is a nylon sheath with a kydex insert, this blends the best of both worlds. Also, adding two securing devices will allow you to be airborne and water qualified. Do not forget to add a drain hole in your sheath which will help keep the inside clean and dry.






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Old 01-05-2004, 09:21 AM
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Do not forget to add a drain hole in your sheath which will help keep the inside clean and dry.

"Combat Knives" by Allen Elishewitz

Thanks for this information.

Now another question, when I made sheaths in the '80's and early '90's, I always placed a drain hole close to the point of the blade. But from my reading on this forum, the thought now is to make the sheath as rain proof as possible.

As usual, I'm confused.:confused:

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Old 01-05-2004, 06:47 PM
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Based on 18 years in the military, I want something that will function in all environments, rather than be resistant to them.

Your kit will get wet, and it will get dirty. I wouldn't consider a knife that couldn't stand up to being wet for a couple of days. I want something that is durable, easy to maintain and easy to clean when I am done with it. Codura is nice, because you don't need anything special to clean it, and it's tough stuff.

How you wear a knife depends on the individual and the job he does. For example, somebody who spends most of their time in a vehicle wants something comfortable and easy to get to when sitting down, but won't catch on things in tight spaces.

I found the guys who are happiest with the knives they carry are the ones who had actual input with the maker to make it suit their needs and the job they do.

Have you thought about letting soldiers "trial" your ideas? I guarantee that if a well known maker like yourself gives a troop a knife and sheath to try out, all his buddies are going to here about it and you'll have no shortage of ideas for improvements.

One last thing - I've never actually used a knife as a "weapon", nor do I know of anyone who has. I have, however, cut rope, wire and wood, opened cans and bottles, pounded nails, used it as a screwdriver, pried crates open, etc, etc....

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Old 01-07-2004, 01:36 PM
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Thanks guys, I emailed Frank for more information.

A.T.
Frank answered me offline. Here is his email.

----- Original Message -----
From: "frank"
To: "A.T. Barr"
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 2:17 PM
Subject: Re: Question please?

If the guys a truck driver, or works in the mail room then that knife`s never gonna see the light of day. If, however he`s one of the Special Operators, of which there are many these days, then the knife can and will be used and used HARD. I sent some double edged knives in Mod-01 tact. rigs to the U S M C, L A R div. and they were well received and used hard. We had good feed-back from the units C O till he was banged-up and rotated back.

Cheers!

Frank

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