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Old 12-19-2000, 09:51 AM
ScottWiley
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False Edges


Hi Ed
My question is on grinding false edges. What method works best for you as far as keeping it even. I am having limited success and have thought of filing it in until my skill with the grinder improves.
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Scott

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Old 12-19-2000, 01:23 PM
Fox Creek
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Scott, nothing wrong with filing them at all. I have tried grinding , but I always mess it up. There can be a lot of subtlety in the exact form of a false edge, and filing is a better way for me to arrive at the final form, s l o w l y . My Mother has an old butcher knife she bought about 1945 for $.89 that has the most beautifully proportioned false edge/swage. I like a modest classy little swedge about 1/8 inch wide.
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Old 12-19-2000, 04:25 PM
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Re: false edges


It is faster to grind them, but, it is also faster at messing them up.
I file my false edges in. That way I can keep checking the eveness of the bevels as I go.
Remember...You can remove the metal but you can't put it back on.
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Old 12-19-2000, 04:28 PM
Don Cowles
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False Edges


I think you guys just saved me some grief. I am about to put false edges on 4 blades, and I would have gone ahead with the grinder if I had not read these posts. Thanks!
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Old 12-19-2000, 07:35 PM
Art Swyhart
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I've had fair success on the grinder if I hold the blade vertically and run it up and down over the contact wheel
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Old 12-19-2000, 07:56 PM
george tichbourne
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I grind all of mine but that is only because I am usually in a hurry.It took a lot of practise to get them just right though.

George
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Old 12-24-2000, 08:45 PM
Jason G Howell
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I hated false edges at first, bith looks and making them. In 1998 I think everybody that ordered one wanted a false edge. Now I carry one and use it for deer exclusively. I can't grind one on a Burr King, but on the Bader, it's a dream. I start by scoring parralel lines just like I do for a grind. I grind almost to the center a little foreward of where I want to end up. As I push lines to the center, I end up pushing the clip back quite a bit. With the Bader, I look down the platen, knife at a slight angle, tip down, edge down. After a few, you seem to find the comfortable angle and find it from side to side. Here are a couple of my clips/false edges.

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Old 12-27-2000, 11:24 PM
ScottWiley
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Thanks for the help guys. I finished forging a 10"x2" Bowie with a long clip sometime ago. Everything went great until I started ginding the bevels in the clip. I totally destroyed the blade. The sad part is that was the best blade I had ever forged. Well anyway live and learn.
Scott
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Old 12-29-2000, 01:33 PM
Geno
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I grind false edges and clean them up with files if need be.
The more you practice, the better and easier it gets and the less filing you'll have to do.

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