This will be the primary thread for the 2009 Newbie KITH.

A KITH is a "knife in the hat," a friendly exchange among knifemakers. You make a knife, draw a name, and send your knife to that person. Likewise, another maker will draw your name and send you the knife they make.

A Newbie KITH isn't really just for the newbs. It gives new makers a chance to make a knife, develop skills, and get some feedback on the knife they make. This is also a chance for more veteran makers to try something new, and also receive comments about how those new ideas worked (or didn't). Either way, this is a chance to kick things up a notch and do your best work, since it's not a knife that you're going to give to your mom (who loves you no matter what) or your cousin Bob who you only see once a year. :D

So, here are the guidelines for this year's Newbie KITH. If anyone is uncomfortable with any of these, we'll talk about it and come to a consensus as a group.

The knife--any style of your choosing, but the knife must be completely your own. No kit knives or factory modifications. If you forge, that means you forged the blade yourself. If you are a grinder (stock removal) that means you cut the blank and ground the profile and bevels yourself. Minor elements (mosaic pins, micarta, etc.) may be purchased.

Heat treat--since we have some true newbies participating, I see no problem with allowing a maker to send their blade out to heat treat if they don't feel comfortable attempting their own.

Sheath--We will leave this optional. Some of you may decide that making a knife is enough of a challenge for you. For others, you may feel that it's not complete unless you can provide the "full package." Either way, it's up to you.

Deadline--March 30, 2009. Anyone can sign up any time, and drop out any time before I draw names. I will randomly draw names sometime in mid-March, and will update the list of participants in this post.

Shipping--the maker is responsible for insured shipping. If we have any participants from outside the U.S., let us know early in the game if there are any restrictions in your country on blade length or style that may be a problem in customs. (NOTE: we've had a push dagger held up in customs, and was ultimately not delivered to the KITH participant.)

Progress and support--we are all here to help each other! This is one of the best things about the Knife Network--all of the makers here that are willing to share their time and experience, so make the best of it. Run into a problem? Let us know and hopefully someone will help you out. Progress pictures are highly encouraged!!! I would definitely like to see pictures of everyone's knife when it is finished. We'll do a gallery like we did for the last newbie KITH.

The participants--here is the list of who has told me that they are participating. This is not the draw order, so if you see who is above you on the list, that does not necessarily mean that you will be getting their knife. That will be decided later.

I will update this list as people join/drop out.

Armory414 (Nathan)
Shankmaker
markd
lytefoot45
terence
mitch3705
Jimbo
AlanR
Frankallen
timekeeper
ranger1 (Andy)
NuViking
Chris Moore
Sbuzek
bindlestitch
dbalfa
DonHalter
lanemoore
Always Fishing
spaknives (Shane)
Cadillac Forge (Bruce)
pipecrafter
SIXFOOTER
jawilliams0425
willied2111
jmd61
lpspurgeon
wineland

longhunter
Kostoglotov
p moore
Txcwboy
DaveRuhlig
porkchop

Good luck guys, and have fun!

Let the games begin!!!!!!!

Looks good to me. The gears are already turning.:)

Yeah, this is gonna rock!

So far, I've been making knives for about 2 years and have completed about 7-8 knives. (Slow I know) I made it a point to try something new with every knife and have learned from each. I've used various steels, handle materials, construction and even equipment to make the knife from full handmade to machine shop assisted. In the previous thread that was "feeling out" whether a Newbie KITH was a popular choice right now, MarkD mentioned "roll the dice" in a post. This sparked an idea in my empty head:

I wanted to try something random to simulate a customer request. So I Googled "randomizer" and hit the first link. I laid out quite a few options on paper for a knife and these are the choices I came up with:

Blade Mat'l: Stainless, Carbon, Damascus
Type: Hunter, Skinner, Bowie, Dagger (never done)
Handle foundation: Through tang, Full tang, Pin/Stick tang, Taper (never done)
Handle Mat'l: Burl, Synthetic, Antler/Bone, Combo
Grind Type: Flat, Hollow (done once)
Fittings: Brass, Stainless
I rolled the dice and let the numbers fall where they would, 3 choices = 33/66/100, 4=25/50/75/100 etc etc....
Results: Damascus, Skinner, Full tang construction, Burl handle, Hollow grind, Stainless fittings

I look forward to it. I will probably randomize types of burl just for fun.

-AlanR

Hey There! This sounds like a good time to me. Put me on the list I'm in for sure.
This is written up very well by the way, Nathan. OK now lets all have some fun and make a knife. Thanks, Shane

So far, I've been making knives for about 2 years and have completed about 7-8 knives. (Slow I know) I made it a point to try something new with every knife and have learned from each. I've used various steels, handle materials, construction and even equipment to make the knife from full handmade to machine shop assisted. In the previous thread that was "feeling out" whether a Newbie KITH was a popular choice right now, MarkD mentioned "roll the dice" in a post. This sparked an idea in my empty head:

I wanted to try something random to simulate a customer request. So I Googled "randomizer" and hit the first link. I laid out quite a few options on paper for a knife and these are the choices I came up with:

Blade Mat'l: Stainless, Carbon, Damascus
Type: Hunter, Skinner, Bowie, Dagger (never done)
Handle foundation: Through tang, Full tang, Pin/Stick tang, Taper (never done)
Handle Mat'l: Burl, Synthetic, Antler/Bone, Combo
Grind Type: Flat, Hollow (done once)
Fittings: Brass, Stainless
I rolled the dice and let the numbers fall where they would, 3 choices = 33/66/100, 4=25/50/75/100 etc etc....
Results: Damascus, Skinner, Full tang construction, Burl handle, Hollow grind, Stainless fittings

I look forward to it. I will probably randomize types of burl just for fun.

-AlanR


That's an interesting approach. That could almost be a KITH by itself, with each participant randomly selecting style, etc.

Hey There! This sounds like a good time to me. Put me on the list I'm in for sure.
This is written up very well by the way, Nathan. OK now lets all have some fun and make a knife. Thanks, Shane


Good to have you on board, Shane.

im in too!! only thoughts i had was concerning sheaths, seems like it should be all or none, the sheath completes the package just seems like it would be unfair for someone to spend the time and money on a sheath and send a complete package but not receive one in return unless the design didnt call for a sheath such as a chef knife or something,
bruce bryant

Welcome to the KITH, Bruce.

You have a point about sheaths. If most of the others feel the same way, we can make it a requirement. If not, sheaths will be highly encouraged. I thought having sheaths optional would allow for the guys with very limited experience to concentrate on the knife.

If anyone else feels strongly about sheaths, please speak up!

Nathan, Here's my two cents worth...I would like to see the sheath remain in the "highly encouraged" category as opposed to a requirement.

I am really excited about participating in this KITH because the knife I make will be my first. I have assembled a few pre-made blades, but this will be the first time I have made a blade from a bar of raw steel. At this point in my knife making journey, I don't have the tools and talents to also make a sheath. I will be spending most of my time on the knife.

Unless it breaks one of the "codes of conduct" for this KITH, I intend to purchase a pre-made sheath to accompany my knife. If there is time, I may attempt to decorate it. By March, I may have tackled making the sheath too, but for now, this plan will allow me to focus all my efforts on making a knife that the new owner will be proud to receive.

Either way, I intend to include a sheath with my knife. Making it a requirement to also make the sheath will add a whole new level of challenge for a true newbie.

Thanks, Wayne

Hey guys, count me in too! The one that I just completed was really fun, and pushed me in a couple new directions. And I have a pile of Aldo's 1084 that I'm itching to work with. :rockon:

I have some W2 that I haven't gotten to play with yet. maybe its time to get it hot and hit it.

I am in, My grinder is almost finished and since my contract is up at work it seems I have some time too. This will be my first blade in 25 years or so, so it should be interesting

Well I would like to get in on this if possible. Thanks

Jamews

I would like to put my name in, so long as I am sure no one will be offended if I drop out. I am working on building a house and we will be moving around that time. I have yet to finish a knife. I have done a few kits and have a few blades that I have made but are not yet heat treated. (well I heat treated 2 and ended up with 1 cracked and one that warped). My father is the one that would be making my sheath, but his hands are not in the best of shape so I will ask before I promise a sheath.(me and leather don't get along well getting no sheath would be better than getting one that I made lol)

Yeah, yeah, yeah........put me in again. And NO, its not going to be one of those 10 1/2 inch stag bowies with the $170 Paul Long sheath so don't ask:D

Can it be one of those 10 1/2 inch Bowies with-out a Paul Long sheath? You know you wanna.:D

Can it be one of those 10 1/2 inch Bowies with-out a Paul Long sheath? You know you wanna.:D
Have you priced stag lately?:eek:

Yes! Scary high. You could use some Ivory. I know you got some:D Probably just laying around.
A nice piece of Ebony or walnut would be cool.
If you do a Bowie, I'll do a traditional japanese Tanto. Dare-ya:smokin

Is it ok to enter one that was started a month before this KITH????

Too late to get in ? I missed the last one but I want in on this one :)

J

Hey, Joe you know I'm just joking right. Are you going to test for JS in june?

Hey, Joe you know I'm just joking right. Are you going to test for JS in june?

Stag? Ivory?

You guys are starting to outclass my knife and I haven't even started! :D

Joe, good luck with you JS test this year!

I haven't been on the forum for a while, so I've just updated the list with the latest people expressing interest in participating in the KITH.

To answer some questions, no it is not too late to sign up. If you want to participate, please let me know by posting on this thread by the end of February. That will give you a month to finish your knife. I will draw names in mid-March, so if time gets moving on and you find you can't finish your knife in time, you'll have until then to drop out.

Hey has anybody else started yet. I layed the steel on the bench and looked at it. Haveing a brain fart on handle material.

I have 2 blades ready and one more in the works I found a guy in salt lake that is willing to edumacater me on heat treating. I still want backups for the other --up that I seam to do a lot. I have handles ordered and on the way. I have to have mine done before the 2nd week of Feb. or I will have to drop out because of the move. (moving sucksss)

I've got 3 ready for H/T,2 more with the bevels ground and 4 more profiled been a busy little camper. Don't know yet which I'm gonna send.
Stan

I have 20 on my bench pick one

Alright, I have to get in on this! I'm still ashamed of my my first and only "Newbie KITH" (sorry Jim). My skills haven't improved much, but at least my equipment has and it's Knife Making Season in FL. For those of you wondering the only other season we have down here is Lawn Mowing Season!

Some of you know I have thing for Nessy's so I may go that route (I've admired hundreds, but only made 2). I'm also leaning towards some sort of kitchen knife - probably pairing or boning (not enough skill yet for a chef).

For you guys planning on this being your first sole author knife, might I make a suggestion? Make 2 at the same time. Trust me, as ugly as you might think your first knife is you won't want to put it in the mail. I think everyone should keep the first knife!

This is shaping up to be one of the biggest KITHs I've seen! I can't wait to get started! Let the games begin!

-Dave

Anyone interested in posting their sketches. We did this in the last kith I did. It was interesting to see what the makers envisioned and what the finished product looked like :)

Cheers

J

Looking forward to this, I just finished my grinder and am waiting on a delivery from Knifemakers supply for belts and steel

Today was most productive. Have blade tempered and started hand sanding. This is my first San-mai blade. Its mild steel with a 1095 core and clay quinched. It will be my last san-mai until I get a press or a power hammer. Making the stuff with a 4lbs hammer sucks.
Going for a traditional japanese tanto. Please don't expect too much. Will try and post some pics tomorrow.

im leaning towards a scandi

Dang Nate!

Almost 30 people signed up! This must be a record! If 2/3s actually stay in, it'll be legendary!

Way to inspire brother! Nicely done!

If I wasn't so dang unproductive lately...

I just had the electrician here this morning wiring the garage for the Paragon I bought in September! What a slump...

Andy,

You're not kidding! I think we brought some of the lurkers out for this one. Seriously, I think this is going to be a great KITH.

But. . .DANG! You guys are talking about having blades heat treated, hand sanding already, etc. I'm still trying to sketch out my knife! I don't have many blades under my belt, but I'm thinking about attempting my first mortised hidden-tang handle with this one.

Don't forget everyone--in progress pics are highly encouraged!!!!

Nathan

im thinking maybe a coke bottle handle. i think i'll go something different than i have been doing....

nathan, you aint kidding about fast! i'm still thinking about blade shape lol!

I'm not that fast just have 4 days off. The dealership I work just sold out and the new owners take over monday. I may be a full time maker on mon. So I'm trying to get going in that direction. Usually I goof off as much as I work. The last couple days I actually worked all day. Man you can make some progress if you go at it like a job.

im leaning towards a scandi
ALLLRIIIGGGHHHT thats the spirt. I love scandies.

Dang Nate!

Almost 30 people signed up! This must be a record! If 2/3s actually stay in, it'll be legendary!

Way to inspire brother! Nicely done!

If I wasn't so dang unproductive lately...

I just had the electrician here this morning wiring the garage for the Paragon I bought in September! What a slump...
Hey, no biggie. it took me 8 months to wired up my press and I am just now getting ready to have the 25 lb Little Giant that I bought 6 months ago sent to Sid at Little Giant for a tune up. don't even ask me about the Baldor buffer that I bought in '06:D

lol

New names from the original thread in the Newbies Arena have been added.

Andy, it looks like we topped 30!!!

OK, got my steel today, 1084 and started workin on it. New grinder ROCKS!
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m270/sixfooter_01/knife%20stuff/1-1.jpg
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m270/sixfooter_01/knife%20stuff/2-1.jpg
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m270/sixfooter_01/knife%20stuff/3-1.jpg
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m270/sixfooter_01/knife%20stuff/4-1.jpg
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m270/sixfooter_01/knife%20stuff/5-1.jpg
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m270/sixfooter_01/knife%20stuff/6.jpg

Hey Six,
If you don't mind me asking, where did you get your 1084?
I can't seem to find it except in 1/4" thickness.
Thanks,
Iz

I got it from USA Knifemaker Supply, it seems like they had thinner stock but this morning I can not find it on their site. I did have to look for it before I found it anywhere.
Ellis does not have it listed either.

Mr. Garrett,
I noticed your name is missing from the list. That just isn't right..

Wow Sixfooter you're moving right along! It's lookin' good!
-Dave

I got it from USA Knifemaker Supply, it seems like they had thinner stock but this morning I can not find it on their site. I did have to look for it before I found it anywhere.
Ellis does not have it listed either.
Cool, I was beginning to think it was just me who couldn't find any.
Thanks,
Iz

yea... yea... lol

We'll just have to see brother. I hate joining then dropping so I'm waiting till the last minute on this one.

Andy,

Starting next month, my tattoo schedule is one less day per week (permanently). I started booking this way five months ago in anticipation of making more knives come spring. I also have a few PTO days set aside just for knives this month, so...

...hopefully I'll be more productive this year.

Plus, I'm still trying to finish my 'super-secret' project. shhh!

I am what you would call a renoob. I have been a few years out of the shop. I got back into making knives a month or so ago. Bottom line, can I play too

Hey Six,
If you don't mind me asking, where did you get your 1084?
I can't seem to find it except in 1/4" thickness.
Thanks,
Iz

Call Admiral steel PHONE: (708) 388-9600 (800) 323-7055 FAX: (708) 388-9317 they have 1/8' x 11/4" by 72" on clearance. If I remember right it is running about $7.00 a stick. You won't find it in their catalog you have to ask for it.:gossip:

Welcome Mr. Moore
Andrew, Remember we gotta link up at blade some year bring your tattoo stuff. I've been working on that Death Dealer Tattoo I want.

Call Admiral steel PHONE: (708) 388-9600 (800) 323-7055 FAX: (708) 388-9317 they have 1/8' x 11/4" by 72" on clearance. If I remember right it is running about $7.00 a stick. You won't find it in their catalog you have to ask for it.:gossip:
Cool ! Much appreciated.
Now I'll quit derailing this thread. Sorry about that.:o
Later,
Iz

I am what you would call a renoob. I have been a few years out of the shop. I got back into making knives a month or so ago. Bottom line, can I play too


Noob or renoob, everyone is welcome to join in. I'll sign you up!

So I read I thought before that we were supposed to post as we went .. well for better or worse here is day 1 which was nice enough to give plenty of work I think to days 2 - 30 :)
As always please feel free to rip into it.

The initial brain burner.. funny looked better in my head. I liked the rounded bolsters I belive Im going to use some nickle. I know I need to bring the grind line up on it a bit.
http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj422/Traokxxx/layout.jpg



The initial cutout and fingergrove and the loss of day light. Havnt convinced the wife to let me bring the grinders and sanders in the house.....Yet ?

http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj422/Traokxxx/cutout.jpg

Well thanks for looking and sure would like some feedback.


For every failure,man will learn another truth
James

Hey ....I got started today too.
Some lucky person is going to get one of these knives.:lol
These will be the first time trying bolsters so we will see how it works out. If it arrives with out bolsters then it didnt work out.:D
The one knife is a blatant copy of one of Tracy Mickleys that I think is cool.I wont do it justice but I will attempt to make a usable knife.

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f260/semisneak/Coonskinner049.jpg

You Guys are moveing right along. I gotta get it going.

I ran into a hurdle over the last couple of days. I tried annealing some 1080. It turned out that my vermiculite had absorbed some water, so the anneal didn't happen. I'm guessing at best it normalized, but it's still hard enough to tear up drill bits and will likely tear up belts. It files okay though. I can drill about a third of the way through the 1/8 inch bar before my drill bits get eaten up. They're aren't the greatest bits, but I'd had no problems with them going through 1095 CRA from Admiral. I may have to go at it with the angle grinder to at least form the tang (I'm wanting to do a hidden, mortised tang.)

That, and my last firebrick got some major cracks this time. I'll wire it back together, but it looks like I'll finally have to get that mini-forge together for this one.

Well here's where I'm at.

I profiled 5 blades, figuring it would help my odds of making a decent knife. Steel is 3/16 1095.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3461/3184294482_88f47720d5.jpg

2 of the knives are duplicates. Right now I'm figuring wood or Micarta with no bolsters, though I may add them to the bottom knife. I may try for a hamon, bot haven't done it before (and why its nice to have duplicates)

And tips on creating a hamon or feedback on the profiles is more than welcome!

IM IN. :)

Dave

Kostoglotov--profiles looks fine, do a search on creating hamons on all the forums all your questions will be answered, lots of good info out there bruce

i have mine profiled, and the blade alfway ground. i figured i would finally try a flat grind.......and i hate it, it looks good but it's mind numbing.

any advice to make it go faster?

ive got four cut out and 2 are filed ready for sanding.sorry no pics yet

i have mine profiled, and the blade alfway ground. i figured i would finally try a flat grind.......and i hate it, it looks good but it's mind numbing.

any advice to make it go faster?


What are you using to grind? It's easy to try for a flat grind and end up with a convex. . .

IM IN. :)

Dave


Terrific! I'll add you to the list.

What are you using to grind? It's easy to try for a flat grind and end up with a convex. . .


finally got it. using the platen on my pathetic little 1x30. i had alot of convex going on one side from where i started, but got it ground out. actually looks good to boot! im fixing to go pick up some ferric chloride to etch out the hamon.

handles will be elk horn from the gila in new mexico and post oak burl i cut from my ranch in central texas

Bruce - Thanks. I missed some of the threads on my last search. I'll probably post a procedure and look for feedback.

Well here's the latest progress. Ground to 120

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3103/3187026526_78269fa0f7.jpg

The top 2 will most likely be my KITH submission. I screwed up the middle one by stamping across the plunge :banghead:. The 4th from the top had some "issues" as seen by the additional sharpie lines along the blade. Marks are for scale layout and pin location. A couple of passes with 240 & onto heat treat and hopefully a hamon

I ground another blade as additional insurance.

As before, comments & critiques welcome

So I think (Let me stress this again) I THINK everything is going without too many disasters.Spent about 3 hours with a file today trying to square everything up. Got a little nervouse with the lower pin holes as there is about an 1/8" to the sidewall(Crosses fingers). I brought it over to my fathers house today to let him see the progress. Which brings me to my first question...

He said " Son... why are there some many dange holes in there ? "

How many pins do you guys normaly use. For this one I have the one 1/4" pin for a mosaic and the four 1/8" outliers becuase I thought
A) It would help with support
B) I thought it added nice flow.
The three for the bolster will blend in so you should not see them..... correct ?

http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj422/Traokxxx/P1030512-1.jpg
http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj422/Traokxxx/P1030513-1.jpg

With any luck I will begin grinding on it this week. ( Did I say grinding I meant sacrifice). This is the first knife I have done that has the cleft that I would like to incorporate into the blade. Has anyone done this that can give any tips. I guess I will file the edges at 45d Then it should grind like the rest of the blade ?

Anyway I will quit taking up your time . I just hope that this isnt too newbish for the newb kith

/Cheers

James

Yeah, those lower holes look a little close to the edge. Don't forget, your handle material will taper in that area.

Just because you have those holes doesn't mean you have to use them. If you don't like where they are at, drill others. Once you have the handle slabs on, you won't see the unused holes.

i would move the holes in a bit more, might look a little better unless you leave the edges square. tight now it would be very easy to grind off a little too much when shaping the pins and expose one

Well here's my pattern for the kith knife. About 9 inches overall, looking at my supplies for bolster materiel and slabs.

Nicely designed drop point!

ive got four cut out and 2 are filed ready for sanding.sorry no pics yet
Still leaning towards a scandie?????

If you like scandies I will send you to a couple of forums where scandies rule the roost

Received a nice piece of wood for mine yesterday. Now I can really get cranking.

:cursin the knife i had about half done is now claimed by my sheath maker sooo time to start over! lol

ive got two scandies one skinner and one drop point filed and ready for sanding. not sure which one ill use for the kith,just have to wiat and see which one turns out best.

Hey guys, well I sat down and have done a couple oc drawings. But I haven't got too much done. I had surgury friday for a hernia so at least one week before I can get back to the shop. And I have a question I have a friend who said he would like to get in on this, does he still have time?

I don't think theres a deadline to sign up as long as you can be ready by the mail out date. This is getting pretty big.

There is still plenty of time. . .

DANG! You guys are moving right along. I guess I should get busy too.:p

I was doing well, cracked blade in quinch last night. So back to square 1

Well here's what I came up with.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3495/3210564983_9608e7bd80.jpg?v=0
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http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3388/3211411022_0dedfe8684.jpg?v=0
I still need to sharpen it and make a sheath.
Let me know what you think, good or bad.
Later,
Iz

That is a sweet looking knife! Reminds me of the old Marbles Dall Deweese pattern.

I had the day off, so I managed to profile 3 blades. 1 is a drop point, the other two are upswept hunters, similar to a puuko in overall shape. All are going to be hidden tang. I'm going to attempt my first mortised tang for the KITH.

That is a good looking piece. And Finished. You guys work way to fast for us old folks to keep up. Nice job.

Nice looking knife! What are the final specs?

You guys are going WAY too fast for me - I don't even have a final design yet!:punchself

Nice looking knife! What are the final specs?

You guys are going WAY too fast for me - I don't even have a final design yet!:punchself


I have blanks cut out, but I don't have a final design either. When it's all done, my knife could be way shorter than it is now! :lol

I have blanks cut out, but I don't have a final design either. When it's all done, my knife could be way shorter than it is now! :lol


My knives are ALWAYS end up way shorter than when I start!

Some progress pics...

http://i543.photobucket.com/albums/gg465/ClearDayOne/KnifeStart.jpg

http://i543.photobucket.com/albums/gg465/ClearDayOne/KnifeDay1.jpg

http://i543.photobucket.com/albums/gg465/ClearDayOne/KnifeDay2.jpg

I hope someone likes....

Thanks for looking.

Wow--that looks great to me. That looks like it will be a big one. What are the specs on that?

Lookin' good!! THe first pic looks exactly like my knife so far! :)

Nice looking knife! What are the final specs?


Dave,
It's 1095 3/16" stock. Full height convex grind. Blade length is about 4 1/2".
Jigged buffalo horn handle with brass pins and red fiber spacers.

Armory,
Good eye. It's my version of a Daweese pattern. I can't afford a real one, so I made my own. heh.

lanemoore,
That looks like a great start. I love the blade shape you have so far.
Later,
Iz

I've been out of the shop for about a year and I wanted to get it close to being finished before I volunteered first.

I will warn you (for those who have seen my work before) this isn't up to my normal standards but I think it should cut things.

Jim

Jim- are you sure you want in this thing? You know there's a chance you may get my knife again don't you? Although no one can be that unlucky twice right? I have a feeling that you supposed less than normal standards will still embarass the majority of us! I for one would love to see you in this one - how 'bout it Nathan?

BTW - I didn't see me on the list either??

-Dave

Jim,

You're in. I've updated the list to include you and Dave.

Nathan

Nice avatar Jim!
Get another kilt? That doesn't look like your Navy tartan.

I'd love to get in this one, but I just took three more orders and time is not magically appearing.

This KITH may be legendary in it's number of participants!

I'm in it for the fun, not to win an incredible, collectable knife. Not that I would turn one down.

All the knives I've gotten in other KITHs are all in use.

Here is what I have so far (still in the clean up stages):

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/8391/newbiekith2009tv2.jpg

This is the first time I've tried a more traditional Loveless design and the first time working with this handle material. It is also only the second time for me on double bolsters.

Jim

Great looking knife Drac! I was a lucky recipient of your knife in the Christmas KITH a while back. That knife had nothing to complain about and this one looks as good and better - I can't wait to see it finished. What is the handle material? Grats on the double bolster, I want to try that soon.

I have just completed one knife for a friend at work, and am about to finish my first commission in the next couple of weeks. As soon as the commission is done I'm putting all focus into the KITH knife. I can't wait to get started. I wanted to focus as soon as the new year came around but these orders came up.

-AlanR

OK, finally got my blade finished. Now on to fixtures and handles and stuff.
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Nice Andy!! Very cool hamon! Looks like a pretty big blade too. What are you think for hanle material?
-Dave

I have a piece of maple burl 1 X 2.5 X 15 . Going to attempt the handle and sheath from that one piece. That way when the knife is sheathed the grain will match up somewhat.

I've been secretly entertaining the idea that I'd jump in on this one at the last minute.

However, four new orders this week, all spawned from one I just delivered, has pretty much killed that idea. You'd never know that the economy was in the toilet here in Wichita!

I'm sure having fun watching though! You guys are doing great work!

I have a piece of maple burl 1 X 2.5 X 15 . Going to attempt the handle and sheath from that one piece. That way when the knife is sheathed the grain will match up somewhat.

Cool idea! I've wanted to do that myself but I can't figure out how to get a thin enough straight line to split the sheath. For those of you saying "that's easy - use a band saw" you must have never used a cheap band saw. I can't cut a straight line to save my life with that thing! I think a table saw would work but I'm afraid it would remove to much material and the grains wouldn't line up when I glued it back together. How do you plan on doing it?
-Dave

Here's mine so far! A little Bullnose Skinner! O1 steel and have already HT and Tempered almost ready to Handle!:flame:

Frank

http://upload.pbase.com/image/108566026.jpg

That's a nice one Frank!! Reminds me of a little Nessy. What kind of handle are you thinking?
-Dave

Thanks Dave!! Putting some Cocobolo scales on as I write this post!

Frank

Ok so I THINK I may have won the battle of me and old crappy camera v.s Vista so ifin I can figure out how to post a pic one of you all will be getting one of these. Sorry about the photo quality (read above about crappy old camera) <a href="http://s15.photobucket.com/albums/a356/willied2111/?action=view&current=knifes002.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a356/willied2111/knifes002.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

A bunch of nice looking Blanks!! You have a great selection to pick from!!:rockon:


Frank

There's going to be some nice pieces going around on this KITH.

You guys can't see some of the issues on mine. It's little things like epoxy under the rear bolsters ( put the handle on first :banghead ), chips, etc.

The handle material is seraphinite, a sister stone of charoite. The stones are very different though. Some of the other details are:

Steel: CPM154
Bolsters: 416
Pin: 416

Thanks Andy. The kilt is my Navy one it's just the lighting. I am in the market this summer to get a new one. Probably this one:

http://www.sportkilt.com/ezcart/products/KS_Ninja.jpg

Jim

If you guys start compareing dresses I'm outta here :D
I really like the bottom blade. Nice selection.

You got a problem Picky?:fencing:

http://www.sportkilt.com/walloffame/MARCUS_250.jpg http://www.sportkilt.com/walloffame/ACA%20Kilts1sm.jpg http://www.sportkilt.com/walloffame/team_irish.jpg

These ladies don't seem to mind:p :

http://www.sportkilt.com/walloffame/PickUp.jpg http://www.sportkilt.com/walloffame/BakerGirls2.jpg http://www.sportkilt.com/walloffame/BretBifelow.jpg http://www.sportkilt.com/EXTRA%20CUSTOMER%20IMAGES/Bowtie500.jpg

Jim

Gotta get me one of them skirts.

ROFLMAO!

Yea, I own 3 Sport Kilts and a Utilikilt--most comfortable things I have in the closet!

Chicks love 'em! When ya walk into a bar in a kilt, all of a sudden, all the other dudes are just wearing pants.

You Guys don't want to ride through Alabama in Skirts!!:D

Frank

heme yea if you need further guidance on guys in skirts ( or without ) down here in the south I can recommend a movie for you .. ( /Starts tuning Banjo)

Hey if you can pick-up chicks like those in the pics by wearing a skirt, I'm gett'n me an evening gown.

If you wear one of those skirts round this time of year around here you aint gonna have no use for those purdy girls.

Another one to add to the list done today. Gonna go get em all heat treated Saturday.:rockon:
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Wow I am definitely a newbie, I can't even figure out how to register, any help. Thanks.

Got mine about 90% done. I decided on a gent's EDC. It's about 6.25" OAL with a 2.5" cutting edge, O-1 with snakewood scales. I've still got to do some clean up and then it's sheath time. I'm considering a scotchbrite or light etch finsh to get rid of some of the shine.
-Dave

http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1616/6734214/12954893/352856835.jpg

http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1616/6734214/12954893/352856840.jpg

http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1616/6734214/12954893/352856844.jpg

01 steel orange g10.Just a basic user hunting knife.Belt sheath included

Dave

http://www.baldcowboy.com/images/kith2.jpg

Pork chop. what are you trying to register ? You seem to have registered to get on the forum ok :)

Dave

Pork Chop, If you are wanting to 'register' for the KITH, just announce it with a post and Nate (Armory414) will add you to the list (this is his baby).

Nice knives to both of the Daves. I like the sheepsfoot shape, and that pink G-10 is the shiznit! Where'd you get that stuff? Did I miss it in one of my catalogs?

Decisions...decisions.....I'd like to try something new, but I haven't decided exactly what. I've finally started on my journey into folding knives, but those won't be ready until May or so.

End date is Mar 30th, so I have until Mar 29th to decide what to make, right?:p

01 steel orange g10.Just a basic user hunting knife.Belt sheath included

Dave

http://www.baldcowboy.com/images/kith2.jpg


Its ORANGE so you didnt miss anything :)

Ok hhttp://i441.photobucket.com/albums/qq135/mitch3755/CaliBuckeyeBurlClipPoint.jpgeres mine ATS-34 with a 2 3/4 blade, 3 3/4 handle Cali. Buckeye Burl

Great looking knives guys.

Here is what I have so far. First time doing bolsters and had some finish issues but it came out pretty good.
I still need to put the edge on and make a sheath.
9" overall.
5" blade.
3/16 1080 steel
416 ss bolsters
SS 3/16 pin and 1/4 thong tube
Black walnut scales.The scales are not stabilized.
The scales were coated with danish oil then polished with bri wax.


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Great looking blades guys. I gotta get the A game out.

Very nice gentalmen.

Jim

This is the largest turnout I've seen for a KITH. And also the largest number of knives that have even started let alone the largest number I've seen that are near finish anywhere close to this early in the project.

Congrats to those that have worked hard!....I'm still drawing mine out.

-AlanR

Got mine about 90% done. I decided on a gent's EDC. It's about 6.25" OAL with a 2.5" cutting edge, O-1 with snakewood scales. I've still got to do some clean up and then it's sheath time. I'm considering a scotchbrite or light etch finsh to get rid of some of the shine.
-Dave

http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1616/6734214/12954893/352856835.jpg

http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1616/6734214/12954893/352856840.jpg

http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1616/6734214/12954893/352856844.jpg
Now thats an inteesting profile.

I really wish more of you guys would wait til the last minute. I'm getting a little nervous.:p

They really beat us slow guys up HuH?

They really beat us slow guys up HuH?SHoot, there are 2 whole months to go. I still gotta get a ceiling on the new show. Mine is rough ground and ready for ht, but I've never made a leather sheath before, so that could take a couple days or til July, who the hell knows. It's more exciting that way, right?:cursin

SHoot, there are 2 whole months to go. I still gotta get a ceiling on the new show. Mine is rough ground and ready for ht, but I've never made a leather sheath before, so that could take a couple days or til July, who the hell knows. It's more exciting that way, right?:cursin

Thats why I tried to get the knife done early.... so I would have more time to work on the sheath. The only leather tools I have is the heavy needles. I read somewhere a real craftsman never blames his tools........I dont have any tools to blame.:p

Holy crap, look at all finished knives! About all I've done is decided what kind of knife, and bar of steel I'm going to use.

I think I'm going to go down the Kerambit road, but make it a little more multi-purpose, and a little more polite-company-friendly. Maybe a neck sheath - but I don't know for sure yet.

Thats why I tried to get the knife done early.... so I would have more time to work on the sheath. The only leather tools I have is the heavy needles. I read somewhere a real craftsman never blames his tools........I dont have any tools to blame.:p
I just bought a groover, twine and a big shoulder piece from Tandy and don't know what to do with any of it.

When I blame my tools they fight back in ways never imagined. They're fickle bastards.

Holy crap, look at all finished knives! About all I've done is decided what kind of knife, and bar of steel I'm going to use.

I think I'm going to go down the Kerambit road, but make it a little more multi-purpose, and a little more polite-company-friendly. Maybe a neck sheath - but I don't know for sure yet.
Diamonds aren't made without a little pressure.:D

Hi guys,

I just got back in town late last night. Looks like some of you are coming along rather nicely!

porkchop, I got your PM's. I added you to the list. Please read the first post in this thread and some of the sticky's at the top of this forum as far as any "rules." No rules really, more like general guidelines. The only real rule is to have fun and join the comaraderie.

Nathan

heres mine the scandi i was working on didnt work out so i did a sharp finger. 01 with dymonwood handle. needs a final polishing sharpening and my mark

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s145/terence_pinder/101_3701.jpg

Finished my quench and heat treat now to get busy with the finish and putting scales on. Thinking of using purple heart with ss pins. Hope to post pictures as soon as I figure out how.

Mine made a change. found a crack in the blade. Why do I have so much trouble making a traditional tanto? I must have screwed up 20 or more blades trying to make the same knife.

:gossip: Ya'll tell me- KITH Worthy? I've got these built as spec knives, I've gotten several orders that I need to fill so I don't know if I'll have time to get a separate KITH project whooped out.....

In case I don't - I'll put it up for popular vote- most votes gets in the KITH:p

#1- "Little brown knife" ATS-34, brown paper Micarta, SS fittings. oal 5 1/2"
#2- "Lacewood Hunter" 0-1, Australian Lacewood, NiSilv fittings. oal 7"
#3- "Black Hooker" o-1, Cape Buffolo scales with crimson liners, SS fittings. oal 7"

:gossip: Ya'll tell me- KITH Worthy? I've got these built as spec knives, I've gotten several orders that I need to fill so I don't know if I'll have time to get a separate KITH project whooped out.....

In case I don't - I'll put it up for popular vote- most votes gets in the KITH:p

#1- "Little brown knife" ATS-34, brown paper Micarta, SS fittings. oal 5 1/2"
#2- "Lacewood Hunter" 0-1, Australian Lacewood, NiSilv fittings. oal 7"
#3- "Black Hooker" o-1, Cape Buffolo scales with crimson liners, SS fittings. oal 7"

All 3 look fantastic but i like number 3 the most.:101

Those all look great Dennis! I really dig #2 though - I think it's the clean design, materials chosen, and pin placement that does it for me. I'd be happy with any of them!
-Dave

Yes they are all (in my humble opinion) very nice knives, but I like #1 the best.

Yes they are all (in my humble opinion) very nice knives, but I like #1 the best.
Ditto.

Well an update...

One thats near completion -
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3448/3259699986_a86be0f230.jpg

Need to fix the oops on the tang :banghead and take it to the buffer before gluing.

2 others I'm thinking about. This is my 2nd & 3rd attempts at a Hamon.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3372/3259699978_1eb5a03f66.jpg

I still need to edge test them but I'm keeping my fingers crossed. I wish the plunge cuts were better, but I'm struggling with leaving them as is or risk a screw up.

As always any comments or criticisms are encouraged and welcomed

Starting from scratch. this is going to be a 4" hunter for this KITH. Maybe I was just never meant to make a decent Tanto.

Thank you gentlemen for your kind comments. Looks like I may have a new one to use anyway.

I started a caping knife for a customer this weekend and decided to do two at once. I did my normal flat grind on one and tried my first hollow grind on the other and it turned out surprisingly well- and it was fun. Used a 8" wheel. I think I may turn it one of these for the KITH. I believe I will use English walnut or Rosewood for handles with appropriate liners.

Now looks like I gotta get that 10" and 12" contact wheel I've benn avoiding......:banghead

Well I just finished the sheath so that means im done.
As I said this was my first time with bolsters and the second leather sheath I have made.
Im proud of how it turned out so I hope someone likes it.
Its not pretty enough for a show piece and too big and heavy to pack daily so I dont know where it fits in.
When do we draw names?
It was 61 degrees out today so I took a bunch of pics outside.

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f260/semisneak/kithknife038.jpg
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Hey Shank,great Job on the Knife and Sheath !!:rockon:

Frank

This will probably be my submission. I may be able to put together somthing better before this is over but if not here it is.
1095 blade is 4 1/2in 8 1/2 overall walnut with mosaic pins.
It really dont look as bad as the pics... other than the scribbling on it that says my name (kinda)
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Im still gonna leave mine a surprize. Im not sure if I am gonna make a sheath or a display.

Little better pic also finished polishing.
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Good looking blades guys.

...well "The Little Brown Knife" is sold. So I guess it is out of the KITH....

I did finish a rosewood handle caper last night, looks good. But I'm having a hard time deciding what/how to make a sheath that is appropriate. Anybody ever made a fixed blade sheath with a overflap, sorta like a folder sheath? I'm thinking this knife is not one you would normally carry on you person but one you would keep in your pack or in the truck.

I'm starting this weekend on the grind for a thru-tang, doulble hollow-ground hunter with brass pommel nut and antler/wood combo handle......quite an untertaking.
Andy, I hope you can help me when I loose my place.......

My father made a couple sheaths like that for a some kit knifes I made for Xmass I will try to get some pics and have him draw a patern of what he done. They turned out well.

Dennis,
Be glad to help if I can.

Well, I made a "dolt" yesterday....I finished the rough out grind on what is now a combo chute/hunter knife. Double 8" hollow grind actually turned out OK. I had a 2" tang on the blade and hence had to extend the tang so I silver soldered a grade 8 5/16" bolt to the tang when I realized that 5/16" is larger than 1/4":cursin .....can't fit the guard.....haven't heat treated yet....:punchself

I would assume the "proper" series of events would be the exact reverse of what I did. So I guess tonight I will cut the extension off, fit the guard, heat-treat and then solder another extension on. But it's all good fun once the :cursin is over....

About the sheath- I would love some ideas. I tried a couple this week and one came out tolerable, the other, not so tolerable. I hope they don't stop killing cows because I can sure use up some leather....Thanks for any help provided.

Got the handle wrapped and decided to make an intersting sheath. Something I have had in mind for awhile. so lets see how tis turns out. In and out,,in and out,,,,Keep your minds out of the gutter that is what the sheath is going to be about.

Well, I made a "dolt" yesterday....I finished the rough out grind on what is now a combo chute/hunter knife. Double 8" hollow grind actually turned out OK. I had a 2" tang on the blade and hence had to extend the tang so I silver soldered a grade 8 5/16" bolt to the tang when I realized that 5/16" is larger than 1/4":cursin .....can't fit the guard.....haven't heat treated yet....:punchself

I would assume the "proper" series of events would be the exact reverse of what I did. So I guess tonight I will cut the extension off, fit the guard, heat-treat and then solder another extension on. But it's all good fun once the :cursin is over....

About the sheath- I would love some ideas. I tried a couple this week and one came out tolerable, the other, not so tolerable. I hope they don't stop killing cows because I can sure use up some leather....Thanks for any help provided.

dbalfa,
Instead of cutting off the extension can you grind the sides down to 1/4"? Or is your tang shorter (top to bottom) than 5/16" also? If you can grind the sides the nut should still work, I'm thinking.
Later,
Iz

dbalfa,
Instead of cutting off the extension can you grind the sides down to 1/4"? Or is your tang shorter (top to bottom) than 5/16" also? If you can grind the sides the nut should still work, I'm thinking.
Later,
Iz


I thought about that, but I was worried about how the then rectangular bolt would look in the butt cap- would I be able to see the flat sides in the threaded hole....so I cut it off. Oh well, I need practice oxy/acetyl welding anyway. I think I will step down to a 1/4" bolt anyway. but then why worry about such anal details....see below....

I fitted the guard last night.....took ALL NIGHT! There has got to be a better way to do that than how I did. Took two attempts and it still aint perfect...I attached it with JB weld and I don't know if I'll be able to live with the connection or not. I've got about a 32nd gap on both sides somewhat uneven- better that the first attempt but not perfect. Once the J B sets hard and I buff, it may not be as obvious. Do they make copper color JB? Man I need some! or I need a small mill one. Wonder which is cheaper :)

Needless to say I gained a new appreciation for you fellows who do narrow tangs regularly:bow

The knives are looking great, guys!

dbalfa,

Can you mix copper grinds/powder in with the JBWeld? I don't know how much it would take to give you the look without compromising the integrity of the adhesive. . .

Can you mix copper grinds/powder in with the JBWeld? I don't know how much it would take to give you the look without compromising the integrity of the adhesive. . .

I'm sure you can do that, I have before with other epoxies/glues. It would take a lot of it to get the dark grey JB to a copper coloration- that might effect the properties of it. If I take this thing apart again, I might try that. JB has metal dust in it already so it might be OK. I found some copper solder paste also that might be the thing.....

At this point, I think I might just live with it. Hopefully if the rest of the knife turns out crisp and clean, this one detail won't stand out so much. It's purely cosmetic, shouldn't effect the strength of the knife in any way.

Thought I'd post a caping knife recently finished. My first hollow grind on a blade.

dbalfa,
Nice looking and clean on your caper and the sheath.
It may be to late on you hidden tang but: If you grind the bolt down on the sides you don't have to have an exposed nut on the back. You can tap a cap/pommel and screw it on the bolt. Then you wouldn't see the ground down bolt on the end.
Just another option to consider.
Later,
Iz

Sorry,

I got to pull out of this. See -

http://www.knifenetwork.com/forum/showthread.php?t=49718

for details.

Jim

Drac,

Sorry to hear it. Let us know when you get back stateside and we'll start up another KITH of some sort.

Nathan

That sounds cool a "Drac is back KITH"
Stay safe brother.

As I am sure we all agree - A big shout-out goes to Drac and all the other hard charging individual soldiers that do what Iam too much a wimp to do - go where duty calls and keep us free and able to make our knives, shoot our guns and generally be free!

To all those that have gone, are going and will go- THANK YOU GENTLEMAN (and LADIES)- Your sacrifice is not lost on us!

We will look forward to your safe return and the safe return of everyone overthere. THANK YOU

Got mine finished finally. Hope its OK. I'll get the sheath finished tomorrow
Well here it is:
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thats really nice andy!! great job

Thank-you.
By the way its 1095 blade, mild steel guard with damascus ferral and butt-cap.

Andy, that's a really sweet looking knife!

Completely out of character for me, I've started my knife way before the last minute. I've got it rough profiled, and the bevels mostly ground in. I'll probably the shape and bevels finalized today, then I hae to choose a handle material. I *might* wait to heat treat this until I get my electric oven made - but that depends on how quickly I accomplish that goal.

I am going to have to pull out of this KITH too. My new job has me out of the shop and I didn't bring anything to work with while away, not that I would have any time.

Andy, I don't know if we can accept such amatuerish work ..................ARE YOU KIDDING!

Man, you're gonna make us all look BAD! :yield:

:gossip: Where is the name drawer.... I need to bribe the name drawer.....You sure you don't want to auction that piece?

All kidding aside, that is lovely work- pains me to know you probably whipped that out in no time.....may be one day I'll be able to.....

I have a knife ready but haven't figured out how to post photos yet. The knife is a hunter, 1095 with dymondwood. I will try to figure out this camera thing and post some photos, sorry.

That's a great looking knife, Andy!

pork chop,

You can use an image hosting service like Photobucket (there are others also, some free, some not). You need to upload your photo to the hosting service, then insert a link to the hosted photo in your post. I'm not sure how all the hosting services work, but usually they will provided a link that starts with [IMG]\, etc. to each picture for insertion into forum pages.

I am kinda unhappy with the knife I chose but it came out best of what I had made. Then it all came together. Something clicked n I came out with this one. It is 7 in overall with 3 1/4 blade 1095 with birdseye maple with a black spacer. I even decided to try some file work and it came out ok not nearly as good as some of you on here do but OK. Then I went to sharpen it and found I am an idiot and left it to thick n it wont take an edge. It gets "kinda" sharp but no where near what I consider acceptable. :help: What if anything can I do.it still needs some polishing but if I can get it to take a good edge I would be a lot less embarrassed to enter this one than the other one.
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willied2111,

I had the same problem with the first couple of knives I made--too thick after it was all together.

I didn't try this with mine, but you could try to regrind the edge to give it a sabre (now often called a Scandi) grind for the cutting edge. It will be harder to do since the blade is heat treated, so you'll have to dunk the knife frequently in water to keep the blade cool and don't ruin the temper.

But, before you do--try it out. See how it cuts first before you start messing with it. After all, if it's not broken, don't fix it.

Finished

1095
Ziricote scales
Copper/NickleSteel Loveless bolt & NS Thong tube

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3398/3301939645_5bb474ac32.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3414/3301986057_8062ee4276.jpg

thats a good looking piece :)

What happened to this being a Newb KITH LOL. Those are some top notch looking blades. I hope my knife wont be the bad apple that spoils the barrel.

You guys are putting up some nice blades. Should be a great pass out.

Got mine finished finally. Hope its OK. I'll get the sheath finished tomorrow
Well here it is:
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/7558/dsc05137.th.jpg (http://img17.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc05137.jpg)http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/6807/dsc05138s.th.jpg (http://img11.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc05138s.jpg)No surprise at all. Totally sweet, man.

Thank-you much.

Ok so my old man has bad hands and sometimes he cant work leather. That is the case now so I decided that I would make the sheath.A wasted 12x24 piece of leather later I learn the leather that I am trying to use is to thick. So as of now there will be no sheath because I cant afford more leather if construction pics up before this is done I will get some more and try it again. Hope no one is disappointed.

Ok so my old man has bad hands and sometimes he cant work leather. That is the case now so I decided that I would make the sheath.A wasted 12x24 piece of leather later I learn the leather that I am trying to use is to thick. So as of now there will be no sheath because I cant afford more leather if construction pics up before this is done I will get some more and try it again. Hope no one is disappointed.


Sheaths are encouraged, but not required. So, no worries.

What happened to this being a Newb KITH LOL. Those are some top notch looking blades. I hope my knife wont be the bad apple that spoils the barrel.
Wanna wrestle for bad apple status?

Wanna wrestle for bad apple status?
I will get in on that one what do we win?

I will get in on that one what do we win?Very little. Shame, maybe?:p

I know this is all in good fun. But, for the guys that haven't been around for previous KITH's, keep in mind that this isn't about what knife you get or even what the best looking knife is (or the worst). It's about developing skills and building comaraderie. And fun! Even if the knife you make for the KITH is your first knife, I'm willing to bet that by the time you're done you'll have learned a lot more than when you started. Right?

and the constructive critisicm you get from other knife makers is invaluable.

I like to get those first knives. Just think one of you guys may be the next Bob Loveless. What would his first knife be worth on todays market. I know its a gamble but the odds are as good as the lottery. Besides its fun.

I like to get those first knives. Just think one of you guys may be the next Bob Loveless. What would his first knife be worth on todays market. I know its a gamble but the odds are as good as the lottery. Besides its fun.
Heh. I agree. Plus it's just cool getting something that a person put all that time and care into to make by hand. You can't replicate that any other way imo, and it doesn't matter how "bad" it looks.
Later,
Iz

Finished mine! Tried to match the sheath to the scale color:photo:

A little nessmuk style knife with Cocobolo scales and 1/8" O1 steel and very sharpe..

Frank

http://www.pbase.com/frankallen/image/108717634.jpg

Great looking Nessy Frank! You guys are turning out some unbelievable stuff!!
-Dave

That looks great, Frank!

OK I am waaaaaaaaaaay behind. I have it profiled ground and ready for HT. I found a place near me that will turn around 24 / 48 hours so if I get it there next week I should be ok. I am trying to get 3-4 blades ready to HT so the cost is better. I will pay $22.00 for set up then .95 per pound. I have never used these guys but they are a proffesional HT place.

Great looking combo Frank.
Your work always looks real nice and clean.
Saweet!

The knives posted have been all very nice. Great work guys

I know this is all in good fun. But, for the guys that haven't been around for previous KITH's, keep in mind that this isn't about what knife you get or even what the best looking knife is (or the worst). It's about developing skills and building comaraderie. And fun! Even if the knife you make for the KITH is your first knife, I'm willing to bet that by the time you're done you'll have learned a lot more than when you started. Right?

Is there a formal means for generating feedback?

My blade cracked during heat treat...Hopefully I will be able to put something together by the deadline.

Is there a formal means for generating feedback?


No, there is no formal means of giving feedback. A lot of times people will post pictures and get the "Looks great/attaboy" comments, which for new makers is very encouraging. That doesn't occur just here, it occurs on just about every knife forum. On knives that have some serious issues (cosmetic or otherwise) there is also a tendency to not post comments at all, for fear of offending someone.

Either way, it is difficult to give constructive criticism without having the knife in hand. Pics are great, but it's hard to tell if pins are crooked, grinds are uneven, etc.

I would hope (and highly encourage) that when everyone gets their knife, that they contact the maker by email or PM to let them know BOTH what they liked about the knife as well as what they didn't like. For us new guys that is a big help for improving on some basic skills. For the more veteran makers, I'm sure they would like feedback about new designs, etc. By communicating by email or PM we can give criticism without making it public so that no one feels attacked or otherwise too offended.

Is there a formal means for generating feedback?
Generally feedback is posted here. It is very hard sometimes to post honest feedback. But alas thats how we learn.

I say, you guys are making some real nice stuff for this one!

No, there is no formal means of giving feedback. A lot of times people will post pictures and get the "Looks great/attaboy" comments, which for new makers is very encouraging. That doesn't occur just here, it occurs on just about every knife forum. On knives that have some serious issues (cosmetic or otherwise) there is also a tendency to not post comments at all, for fear of offending someone.

Either way, it is difficult to give constructive criticism without having the knife in hand. Pics are great, but it's hard to tell if pins are crooked, grinds are uneven, etc.

I would hope (and highly encourage) that when everyone gets their knife, that they contact the maker by email or PM to let them know BOTH what they liked about the knife as well as what they didn't like. For us new guys that is a big help for improving on some basic skills. For the more veteran makers, I'm sure they would like feedback about new designs, etc. By communicating by email or PM we can give criticism without making it public so that no one feels attacked or otherwise too offended.



Generally feedback is posted here. It is very hard sometimes to post honest feedback. But alas thats how we learn.

Thanks for the replies and I can agree with both

There may be some value for all if we get to hear both the pro’s & con’s of our work on the site, possibly limiting the constructive feedback to - issue and way to resolve. For example if the pin alignment or grinds, etc are off and here’s away to align them.

It might be a means to impart some knowledge to all.

Well, I'm done. 8 3/4 overall............3 1/2 inch blade. Dyed giraffe bone scales (thanks ED C.) damascus bolsters, brass pins, 1080 and polished, tapered tang, leather sheith. Kevin.

That is a beautiful piece of work. Nice job.

WOW!!...timekeeper.... Beautiful Knife!! Great Job!!

Frank

Very nice knife.

Good looking blade there Timekeeper- What did you use to die the bone? I like that look, I'm gonna have to get some of that.....

Sorry, I received the bone that way. Dyed blue and stabilized.........very heavy!

That bone is really sharp.

Nice work.

Well...I have a half-dozen blades finished now. Yet, none are really what I was wanting. I think I finally know what i want to do. A simple bird and trout knife. This is one style I always like when I see them, but have never made one. I have some ancient moose antler I picked up along a stream in Pennsylvania a few years back. I've been messing around with dyes and such. If what i tried works, it should look really cool. If not, well, i have tons of other handle stuff strewn about the garage!:eek:

OK I am waaaaaaaaaaay behind. I have it profiled ground and ready for HT. I found a place near me that will turn around 24 / 48 hours so if I get it there next week I should be ok. I am trying to get 3-4 blades ready to HT so the cost is better. I will pay $22.00 for set up then .95 per pound. I have never used these guys but they are a proffesional HT place.I'm in a similar position. I gouged the most recent one I was gonna use after it came back from HT.:banghead :banghead :cursin I'll get crackin' but if I don't make the deadline, I'd still like to send it to someone for public feedback.

If I could get the name of your quick turnaround HT place, it'd help.

I've got mine all shaped and ready for HT. This time around, I'm using this KITH as an excuse to stop using my gas forge for HT, and build a dedicated HT oven. I have most of the pieces, and will probably start welding the frame and getting everything assembled in the next day or two.

I am in a bad position. I will not be able to drop the blade for HT until Thurs. This leaves no room for error. I would rather drop now than dissapoint someone. I can try to make a run at it. Please give me your thoughts. I hate to be that guy.:cursin :cursin

Guys,

I'm going to need to be out of town for a week or so for work later in March. I will likely have my knife done, but it will mean cutting things pretty close for me, and it sounds like a couple others are in the same boat with respect to HT, etc.

I also know that several of you are finished and are waiting on the deadline and for the rest of us to catch up.

That being said, what do you all think of adding a week or so to let everyone that is still in this time to finish up?

Nathan

Nathan, I'm good with adding a week or so. Sounds perfectly fine to me.

Add a week or 2

I've got no problem with adding some time.............."stuff happen" that we're not in control of.

Sure add a week or 2 - but do it at your own risk. That should give me just enough time to try to get mine perfect, just about achieve it, then put a gouge big enough to drive a truck through it my nicely polished blade. :punchself Knowing when to stop is something I hope to learn one day!
-Dave

Sure add a week or 2 - but do it at your own risk. That should give me just enough time to try to get mine perfect, just about achieve it, then put a gouge big enough to drive a truck through it my nicely polished blade. :punchself Knowing when to stop is something I hope to learn one day!
-Dave:lol

Is that directed at me?:p

I never stop my interest just wonder. My says I have the attention span of a gold fish and I

Second week of April would be fine with me....

An extra week would do wonders for me. I was gone last week, I'll be out all next week and part of the week after that.

I still got to get back onto the sheath. I showed the knife for this KITH at tonight knife giuld meeting.

I'm ready when ever you guys are. I'm OK with a couple extra weeks.

I am with Andy. Heck I may come up with somthin better with a couple extra weeks.

maybe 0ne of the thingsI learn on this is better timemanagement :p So what is the official new work date??

Did not mean to kill the thread. Anybody??????

I could use the extra time to finish my sheath. I will have to get some pics posted. Thanks, Shane

So here it is .. It looks so much better than the photo :) i learned alot making this as this was my first knife solo well mostly solo < Thank you Yoda >. I know the pins are close to the edge.. BUT I still love it so hopefully it will be mediocre to someone else. I still need to do some more polishing hmm and dare i learn sheath work ??

Any comments would be cool pro's AND Con's well as much as a photo will let you do

440C
Full Tang
Hollow Ground
Blade length 3.5"
Overall Length 7.25"
Handle Cocobolo

James

http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj422/Traokxxx/Kithknife-1.jpg

OK so I went and bought more leather... and ruined more leather. I think I will be sending whoever gets my knife some leather and see if they can make it go together.:punchself

heres mine 7 3/4 total length 3 1/2 cutting edge, san mai with 1084 and some anchor chain
used this material in my stinger model, turned out ok i think i will reserve the wrought
for furinture in the future will make sheath tomorrow, willied where you at?? if you are close enough i will help ya with your sheath,i will be ready on time but if you guys would like to extend this kith that cool with me. bruce

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With an extra2 weeks I can make the deadline with no problem. Mine (second attempt) goes to HT tomorrow, then my first attempt at a leather sheath upon its return.

So here it is .. It looks so much better than the photo :) i learned alot making this as this was my first knife solo well mostly solo < Thank you Yoda >. I know the pins are close to the edge.. BUT I still love it so hopefully it will be mediocre to someone else. I still need to do some more polishing hmm and dare i learn sheath work ??

Any comments would be cool pro's AND Con's well as much as a photo will let you do

440C
Full Tang
Hollow Ground
Blade length 3.5"
Overall Length 7.25"
Handle Cocobolo

James

http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj422/Traokxxx/Kithknife-1.jpg

Nice blade profile and grind
Looks like you did a good job peening the bolsters
I like the Cocobolo

Good Job

willied where you at?? if you are close enough i will help ya with your sheath,
8902
Thanks for the offer but I am in Utah, that is a bit of a long ride to make a sheath. thanks again tho.

yea that would be along haul, couldnt tell your profile,there are others here in utah maybe
they live close?? some of the best money i spent on sheathmaking was the dvd by cactus rose bruce

I just filled out my profile, I have been going to do that for a while but I forget too. Thanks I will look for that dvd.

Now I have issues with HT. Please see my long post in the Newbees area. I am sorry but I an officially out :punchself

So when do we need to be finished? Just wondering how much time I still have. Having some health issues and I am behind.

Since there are a couple people finishing up and need a little extra time, we'll extend it to April 10. I will draw names that week.

Hey guys;
I'm still here and I'm still in. Just been real busy in the shop and at work. I am ready when ever, I will try to get pics up tonight or tomorrow. I may even start another if we are going to push it till 04-10.

BTW I have been scrolling through trying to catch up. I have seen some fantastic looking knives! I would be proud to own any of them !

had previously posted pics of the blade, finished the sheath, ready to mail bruce

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Here is my final entry. My first blade cracked during heat treat. Was able to put this one together in time.

Integral - Frontier finish with red oak handle, brass pin, and leather wrapped ferrule
Made from 3/8" hex bar
10.75" overall with a 4.5" blade

http://i543.photobucket.com/albums/gg465/ClearDayOne/2009KITH.jpg

I will attempt to come up with a sheath. May only be Kydex, but at least it will be something.

Mine is currently @ HT. No pics yet, but it's a small drop point utility type dealy.

OAL ~5"
steel - D2
red spacer/black paper micarta scales
single silver pin

If time allows after it's return, my first attempt at a leather sheath.

Well, instead of a full tang like I had planned it will now be a stick tang. Everything else should remain the same though.

-AlanR