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Charles Vestal
06-29-2008, 12:29 PM
Hello Steve,

I was wondering if you used stainless steel snaps on the handle of the New York Specials you make.

After alot of searching I found a source for them and they seem to work well.

Take Care
Charles

Steve
07-04-2008, 09:04 AM
I have never even seen a stainless snap. I'd love to get some for use on that model, they would be perfect for this application. I just made one out of 416 SS for a miniature, but it isn't really a snap, more of a button-type fastener, kind of like a "frog," like that used on an old bowie sheath.

Charles Vestal
07-04-2008, 11:22 AM
I'll send you a few sets of the stainless snaps and you can see if you like them.

I found this address on your website, is this where you would like them sent.

Steven R. Johnson
P.O. Box 5
Manti UT 84642 USA

I have been using them on my fighter sheaths also, they are 300 series stainless and polish up real nice.

Here is where I found them.

http://www.sailrite.com/Categories/Snap-Fastener-Complete-Units-Stainless-Steel

I am finishing up a New York Special with Westinghouse antique gold Micarta and a matching Chute.

Hope you have a great Holiday weekend

Charles

Steve
07-04-2008, 09:23 PM
Thank you very much, Charles. Can't wait to see them.
Yes, that is the correct mailing address.
I'm wondering if they are the large or smaller snaps?
Thanks again!

Charles Vestal
07-04-2008, 10:19 PM
I'll try to get them in the mail tomorrow.

The part of the snap that will go on the New York Special handle is about 9/16" diameter.
Not sure if that would make them the large or smaller size.

Charles

GHNorfleet
07-05-2008, 01:30 PM
Where did you get your Westinghouse antique gold Micarta? Would love to see a photo of it.

Charles Vestal
07-05-2008, 01:56 PM
Hello Gilbert,

The customer supplied the Micarta. I'll see if I can get a photo taken and posted.

Charles

Steve
07-06-2008, 12:44 AM
My snaps are the "baby" snaps, the female part is 3/8" diameter. That's the piece that is inlet into the handle slab of the New York Special.

Charles Vestal
07-06-2008, 07:25 AM
Sorry to have gotten your hopes up Steve. You have some of the bigger ones coming your way.

I'll check with Sailrite to see if they can get some of the Baby snaps. Do you know what the company that makes your snaps call this size(do they call them baby snaps).

Charles

Steve
07-07-2008, 12:36 AM
I think Bob Loveless called them "Baby Durables."

Charles Vestal
07-07-2008, 07:55 AM
Hello Steve,

I contacted DOT Fasteners and they said the Baby Durables are not available in stainless

We could have a special run made, but the lady said we would have to order a min. of 30,000 sets. I don't think I will be making that many New York Specials.

I quess we hit a dead end on this one.

Take Care
Charles

Steve
07-07-2008, 12:02 PM
Hey, that's only about 30 for every knifemaker on the planet! Oh well, the others have done fine for 30-40 yrs. Great idea, that would be the ultimate, wouldn't it? Thanks!

Charles Vestal
07-07-2008, 08:15 PM
Gilbert, here is a photo of the two knives with the Antique Gold Micarta.

Take Care
Charles

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d151/cvestal24210/knives2387.jpg

GHNorfleet
07-07-2008, 09:05 PM
Sure would love to get my hands on some of that stuff.

Charles Vestal
07-08-2008, 11:57 AM
So would I Gilbert.

There was a block 1 3/8" x 1 1/4" x 5" on ebay that sold for $255 last week.

There is another for sale now, not sure what the high bid is.

Charles

Steve
07-10-2008, 11:55 AM
Hello Steve,

I contacted DOT Fasteners and they said the Baby Durables are not available in stainless

We could have a special run made, but the lady said we would have to order a min. of 30,000 sets. I don't think I will be making that many New York Specials.

I quess we hit a dead end on this one.

Take Care
Charles

Hey, how much did she say 30,000 sets would cost? Maybe we could all go together and chip in....... oh well, it was a thought.

Got the large SS snaps today, Charles. Thank you, I'll try them out.

Charles Vestal
07-10-2008, 04:09 PM
Steve,

After she said 30,000 sets I lost my train of thought and forgot to ask.

I can call back if you like? We can go into the Stainless Baby Snap Business.

Take Care
Charles

Steve
07-10-2008, 04:44 PM
Just curious, is all. Maybe they are only $.01 a piece if you get that many. That we can afford! I found 100 "Dot Baby Durables" on the www for $6.60, that makes them only $.06 a set. If they could do the same in SS it just might be doable. What do you think? Can't hurt to ask, if you don't mind.

I wonder, also, if the spring in the female half is SS? I'd assume that it is, but you never know.

Charles Vestal
07-10-2008, 06:25 PM
The spring in the female half is SS.

I think I'll call back and see what kind of price we can get on a run of these babies.

I'll let you know.

Charles

Charles Vestal
07-14-2008, 08:56 PM
Hello Steve,

I talked to Tonya at Dot today. She said they would have to make the tooling to produce the SS baby durables, since the tooling they use on the brass units would not hold up to the SS.

If we want to order a batch we would have to pay a tooling fee and purchase at least 100,000 sets. She said if we would like a price per set she could work up a price.

So what do you think?

Charles

Steve
07-14-2008, 09:09 PM
Time to be happy with what we have, in my opinion. Seems to get more out of hand the more we pursue it. However, it might not hurt to get a quote, if she won't charge us for that! Maybe she'll surprise us. Thanks for your efforts, it is certainly a worthy goal.

Charles Vestal
07-22-2008, 10:13 AM
I talked to Tonya at DOT today.

She gave me a rough guess for a run of the SS Baby Durables.

She said it would cost$100,000.00

I think I'll bow out of this project at this time:eek:

Maybe they will start making them on their own one day.

Take Care
Charles

Brett Schaller
07-22-2008, 08:48 PM
$100,000.00 ?

Okay, I'll kick in five bucks. Anyone else?

Steve
07-23-2008, 01:24 PM
All in favor of saying, "I give up!" raise your hand.
Thanks Charles for going to all the trouble for us.
I could go $5 too, if we want to pursue it. Let's see, that's only
20,000 knifemakers that we'd have to recruit!

Charles Vestal
07-23-2008, 02:33 PM
:yield:


Charles

Steve
07-23-2008, 05:05 PM
It takes a man to know when he's lost a battle. It was a good cause and a good try.
Thanks again, Steve

Redalert
09-10-2008, 11:46 AM
Very nice work, Charles.

I always enjoy looking at it.


Alain Desaulniers.


By the way , hello to Steve.

Steve
09-10-2008, 12:04 PM
Nice to hear from you Alain.
All the best!

Charles Vestal
09-10-2008, 05:01 PM
Hello Alain,

Thank you for your kind words.

I have seen some of your knives around the net and you are doing some great work.

Take Care
Charles