Ebay #6604247190

Looks like someone took a grinder to the handle on a bowie-clip #15 to make a "bukston".

From the photos the handle doesn't look too pretty - hard to imagine it looks good in hand. The sheath is kinda odd as well - never seen a high-ride like that for a #15.

As shop one-off, I might be willing to spend a few bucks on it, but if it's aftermarket the 474.99 is too rich for me.

Would be interesting to know if it came from the shop that way......

Any thoughts (other than I need to stop doing this after 11 p.m.)?

AZGator,
As most of you know, I don't make it a habit of commenting on ebay. Not my favorite joint for pricing "or" trying to collect Randalls. There are some nice Randalls on it: No question about it. This ain't one of them. Maybe some of you don't know this, but a Randall Model #14-7 1/2" or a Model #15-5 1/2" can be ordered in stainless with a "bowie clip point". The code is "BCP". Red micarta can be obtained from the "Treeman" as well as other sources. This knife, with the exception of the poorly completed "exposed" tang/ butt section, and odd ball sheath, can be had from the Randall shop...and for less money! AND you would have a 100% Randall, with no chop and channel! Of course: That's just my opinion. Now that I'm not a moderator, I can voice that without too much hassle. The sheath would aid in carrying this thing in an automobile, but the higher up you carry it, the worse that "butt thing" is going to getcha! Best, Capt. Chris Stanaback
P.S. At least I give the seller credit for not trying to con folks into thinking that the Randall shop did all of the work and it just happens to have a sheath other than a Randall stamped "only" sheath! CCS

Hi Azgator!

I believe you and the Captain are quite correct. The knife does look like someone took a #15 with a Bowie clip point and re-made the handle to appear like a short blade Buxton Fighter. A custom sheath (not stamped Randall) was ordered from Sullivan's later on.

I'm sure Dirty Water will confirm that this knife never left the shop looking like this, but is rather an after market altered "Bukston" wannabe. :(

At least the seller admits he has no idea of the origins or legitimacy of this knife.

Unlike the Captain, I do believe that eBay can be a very good place from which to acquire Randalls. However, one should be extremely careful, and the more knowledge one has about RMK, the better.

That's why it's great to have experts like the Captain, Dirty Water and others contributing to this forum where we all can learn from their expertise. :)

Cheers!

David

Original or not, it is a pretty neat knife.

"A custom sheath (not stamped Randall)..."

But the sheath IS stamped Randall!

I know I'm not the sharpest tool in the drawer..... so I ask dumb questions.

Is the idea that the knife has been rehandle with a shorter BP red micarta?

Or that the tang has been extended?

Or that a Buxton has been reground?

:help:

OOPS!

Hi cut_n_run!

Thanks for pointing out my error. I stand corrected! :o

I missed the Randall stamping on the front of the sheath.

This means that Greg Gutcher of Sullivan's had the knife in hand, and that it was obviously a Randall made knife. However, it is still unclear as to whether the end product was shop or otherwise crafted.

Cheers!

David

Hey guys,

I'm not sure what this knife is! :o

Too short for a BF as you all know, but if it was a cut down 15 c/p then the WT hole would be showing at the top of the tang! So, I'm afraid I'm no help and just as confused as the rest of y'all!!:yield:

Someone get a hold of Greg and ask him about the sheath, he's evidently had the knife in hand!

-----DW-----

Dirty Water.

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Thanks,

Hi DW!

Thanks for keeping this mystery alive.... :help:

I have sent our query to Greg, who hopefully will reply when he has the chance.

Cheers!

David

With all due respect to all concerned here. You folks are missing something: big time! What makes anyone think that Greg Gutcher ever saw this knife, at all: Let alone this knife in "this configuration". Many possibilities. The knife could have been sent to Greg for a short carry sheath prior to it's modifications. A totally different Model #15-5 1/2" could have been sent to Greg and then this knife was sold with it later. I am not sure Greg would make a Randall-stamped sheath, even a double stamped one, for a highly modified Randall such as this one. Just "food for thought". It's real nice to think the best, but: there are a lot of strange things going on out there. Who knows? We don't, that's for sure! Best, Captain Chris Stanaback

Hi all!

Here's the answer back from Greg Gutcher:

"Over the years we have made many high ride sheaths for the Mod. 15. This one I don't think has ever been through my shop in this configuration to have a sheath made to fit.
IMO this one has all of the characteristics of being an altered knife. It looks like someone may have removed the original handle and replaced it with a shortened piece of micarta and reground the end to look like the Buxton fighter.
Greg."

Thanks very much Greg for your quick and forthright reply! :101

I guess this pretty much settles it! :rip:

Cheers!

David

Definitely seems to have been a bit of tampering here. This picture shows the knife next to a real one. I drew in some comparison lines. Corresponding features line up fairly well, EXCEPT for the end of the handle of the knife in question—quite a bit of it seems to have "mysteriously" disappeared.

and it sold for $747.50.

Someone, eventually, is likely to be very, very unhappy..........