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Rusty-Gunn 11-03-2005, 06:50 AM Hello... this is my first post here. A few years ago I made a knife from a used planer/jointer blade (1/2Wx6Lx1/8 thick). The proceedure I used was to dip the blade in water to cool it about every 10 seconds of grinding on a belt sander (1x30). I used Dymondwood as handle material (hidden tang). The knife works well.
I have a question. I'm told planer blades a too hard to use as blade material. They'll likely snap, rather then flex. Although this doesn't concern me since I don't use knives as prybars, but I'd like to remove some of the hardness. Can anyone give me an idea of how it can be done? Can I soften the blade in my kitchen oven? 57-59 RC would be okay (whats the RC for a planer blade?) Thank you very much. ~~~Suluuq
mmunds 11-03-2005, 12:33 PM Just toss the blade in the oven (after removing handle) at 350 for 2 hours and let cool in oven to touch. do brass rod test then 25 degrees higher for 2 more hours till it passes the test.
for direction on Brass rod test go here and look down towards the bottom.
http://www.warnerknives.com/knifemaker_faq.htm
mmunds 11-03-2005, 12:35 PM PS, you could even start at 300 if you like :smokin
A planer/jointer blade is most likely made from something like a high speed steel. It may be difficult to temper back. Put you kitchen oven at max heat the part for 2 hours and see if that helps.
Rusty-Gunn 11-04-2005, 03:11 AM Thank you all for the responces. I'll read up on the brass rod info. I'm a beginner at knifemaking, having only made a few (the planer blade knife was my best, I still use it).
I plan to buy jointer blades to make a few more bigger knives, and will take the temper/brass rod info highly. ~~~Suluuq
Rusty-Gunn 11-04-2005, 03:12 AM BTW the blades are high speed steel.
Bulk of info I've found indicates that most older planer baldes are D2. The new ones are anybody's guess. Fella did bring me a couple he bought at Harbor Freight (china), and they didn't respond like any D2 I've ever used. Forged him a couple of blade blanks out of O-1, real quick and he's happier than a duck on a private pond.
Pretty pricey blade material if you are buying it new from the hardware store.
Rusty-Gunn 11-05-2005, 06:29 AM The website I'll buy the blades from didn't say what material the blades are made from, but did say its high speed steel. Price is about $28.00 for three blades (plus S/H). Being a beginner I figure I'll start with planer blades because they're already heat-treated and tempered (quite hard though - I'll experiement with tempering as described above).
I'll move on to other material later on. ~~~Suluuq
Rusty-Gunn 11-20-2005, 05:08 AM Some weeks back I ordered a set of jointer blades from Infinity Tool. These came in yesterday. The printed material says these are made of D3. Can I figure these to be simular to D2?
I used a 1x30 belt sander, and 80 grit belts to make a knife blade, soaking the blade in cold water every 10-15 seconds of grinding to keep the heat treatment intact. Personally, I'm quite pleased with the result. I intend to make another blade, and atempt to temper it as sugested above, and compare both blades. Well, any further suggestions/info/comments would be welcome. Thanks. ~~~Suluuq
D3 - 2.20 C, .30 Mn, .25 Si, 12 Cr, .50 Ni, .0 V . For comparison D2 is the same except 1.50C. .... A 500F temper will get you about 62 HRc......Interesting comments about the ulu and it's chisel grind. Making those would be a good project for you.
Rusty-Gunn 11-23-2005, 05:50 AM Mete... 500F for how long? Two hours? Cool in the oven? (As mentioned in an above post)Does it make a difference if I temper a planer blade, or should I grind a knife blade first?
I put a handle on the blade yesterday (an older piece of Dymondwood I had put away), but don't care for how it came out. I goofed trying to fix a mistake I made shaping the handle. When the Dymondwood material I ordered comes in I'll replace the handle. Practice makes perfect, eh?
Thank you all very much. Finding this place sure has its bonus- educated knife makers! ~~~Suluuq
Two hours will be fine and you can just take it out of the oven to cool.Grind it after ,it might be a little easier to grind. Keep dunking it in water to keep it cool as you grind.
Rusty-Gunn 11-24-2005, 05:39 AM Thank you very much. I'll do this to the two blades I have on hand. I'll post my results someday, after I get them done. ~~~Suluuq
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