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SKIVIE
05-06-2005, 05:21 PM
Ok...Heres a couple questions for the pro's.

Im looking to buy a evenheat Kiln or Olympic.

This will obviously change my way of Heat treating has brought up a couple questions im sure someone can answer.

First off, Ive been Heat Treating Say 0-1 in my forge after Stock Removal.

Just a quick overview of my steps:

I will normalize 3 times (Bring it to nonmegnetic then let cool to room temp) After the third time I quench in oil at 130-150.

This is an area im a little cloudy on......How long to leave it in the oil.

Then I temper at 400 for 2 hrs and will do this twice.

Now....with an oven how would I go about these steps.

How does Normalizing work with the oven. Then quench and back into the oven to temper ? Im probably making this into more than it really is, just wondering if someone using an oven could give me some insight.

Also on the quenching. Im coming out with some pretty good results but wondered what the appropriate time for holding the blade in quench before puting it in the oven to Temper.

Thanks for any help.

Shane

fred winter
05-06-2005, 06:32 PM
shane, ist., i would suggest a book, heat treat,selection,and application of tool steels. written by bill bryson. excellent read , easy and straight forward. lots of recipes, how to's ,etc. for myself, i have an evenheat kiln, nice oven, can program, easy, all the steps for most, but for the most exotic steels. i use a inrfared hand held to check for temp after the steel has quenched, it can't go less than the oil temp, assuming its in the oil. tough for me to use a large kiln for tempering, use a toaster oven, with a good thermometer to keep the right temp. keeps my wife happy, and our chicken doesn't taste like motor oil. don cowles turned me on to the system and book. works great. good luck brother. fred w.

SKIVIE
05-06-2005, 08:16 PM
Thanks Fred. Im currently using a Toaster oven for my tempering and would probably continue doing so but just wondered how this oven is going to change things for me

Shane

TOM BUCHANAN
05-06-2005, 09:35 PM
ya know, shane, not to hijack your thread, but fred made a good point in that the blade is not going to go any lower than the oil temp.i run my tank at 140, and after diff quench, i just slip it on in the tank prob for a minute or so, then put it on a board and scotchbrite the h#$@ out of it.that scale comes off so much easier than after you bake it in the oven.real pleased w/results, though i know i got a long way to go.thought i'd throw this in while we're waiting for the pros.it will be a while before i can upgrade ovenwise, but still interested in what advice you get.i'm outta here.be well.

R. D. Finch
05-06-2005, 10:04 PM
Shane

I have the Evenheat, but only have used 440C & ATS-34. I have found that I have to let the furance cool down quite a bit before you can use it for tempering, usually the next day . I do use a toaster oven for the first tempering.

SKIVIE
05-08-2005, 10:36 PM
Ricky, That answered one of my questions. I was wondering how I was going to bring the steel up to say 1450 Degrees, quench and immediatelly temper at 400. Doing the first temper in toaster makes Sense.

Shane