View Full Version : Tire Bead Wire


VSMBlades
07-23-2004, 11:35 AM
Anyone have any idea if this steel is weldable? If it is I have a pile of it. It would be dificult to get all the rubber out of it, but from my experience it is some tough stuff. Maybe I will just go cut some and check the spark on it, then try to harden it. I would love any information anyone has.

Joe

VSMBlades
07-23-2004, 11:42 AM
Quick google says it is a high carbon high strength bronze plated wire. Hmm, still might go spark test some.

Joe

VSMBlades
08-05-2004, 05:51 PM
hmm, no takers. Well I haven't made any progress with it either. If I get anywhere with it I will let you guys know.

hammerdownnow
08-05-2004, 07:49 PM
The bronze plating could keep it from welding up and contaminate your forge.

VSMBlades
08-07-2004, 12:33 PM
Ok finally got up the nerve to brave the mosquitoes and get some wire. It appears that not all bead wire is bronze plated. The stuff I pulled out of an old set of Road Huggers was rusty as crap and I noticed no green tint to the fire when I was heating it up to burn away any excess rubber I might not have cut out. It sparks wonderfully, bright bright yellow with streamers. Now my sucky welding skills aside this stuff welds pretty good, especially with a one brick forge and a ball peen hammer I rigged up at work. I think the only kind of patern you will see are weld lines though because the steel is all the same composition. might be interesting to twist up some iron bailing wire and this stuff and weld it together to see what comes out.

p.s.

this kind of investigation is really cool.

VSMBlades
08-07-2004, 05:17 PM
I guess I could call what I am holding here my first Damascus bilet. It is about 1 3/4 inches long and about 3/8 wide. I made it in a one brick forge using propane. I welded the wires together and it looked like a mess so I folded it into thirds and put an old piece of welding rod in the middle to use for a handle. I then welded the bilet around the rod and forged it relatively flat and smooth, you will note I said relatively. Then I sanded the scale off and polished it up to worn out 800 grit sandpaper The way the wire bent and twisted it looks somewhat like snake scales. If I wern't 6 feet tall and right at 300 lbs I would be jumping around in circles yelling "I did it, I did it, ha ha ha!"( ha ha ha would of course be evil laughter)

Now to polish the other side and see what it looks like, yeah I got a little ahead of myself and just did one side at first.

hammerdownnow
08-07-2004, 08:23 PM
Good going Joe. How 'bout a pic or a scan? Did you etch it any? Feels good when you get that first weld to stick. I know the feeling.

metalking00
08-07-2004, 09:22 PM
tire bead wire? is it the kind of stuff I would be able to get from the dumpster of American Tire Depot?

hammerdownnow
08-07-2004, 09:34 PM
I been thinking crazy and wondered if you took three hanks of say ten strands and three braided them together what the pattern would look like.

VSMBlades
08-09-2004, 08:44 AM
Here is a bad scan of my little bilet. Best to save it and view it in Photoshop or Paintshop Pro to see the etch and stuff. Or if the image dosent show up just cheack out my member gallery.

http://www.knifenetwork.com/ppost/showphoto.php?photo=196