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engraverjay2
06-23-2003, 08:08 PM
Hello! I am new to the forum. My name is Jason I am a hand engraver by trade I work with Christian DeCamillis I do work on mostly guns but some knives. I am 23yrs old I have been engraving for 4-5years and enjoy every minute of it. I cant seem to figure out how to post pics on this forum yet but I'm working on it. I have an address to some pics though:
www.msnusers.com/HandEngravers/newpicsfromjason.msnw
All coments,advice,criticm are welcome
Thanks
Jason:smokin

RBSlaughter
06-23-2003, 10:33 PM
Hi Jason, Welcome to the best knife forum. (I mean best to include both content and members..) Your work looks very nice, thanks for the link. There are turtorials you can find in the search section that will assist you in learning to post pictures, or feel free to contact me directly and I can walk you through it.. Again, welcome, and we look forward to your contibutions...Regards, Rich

Tim Adlam
06-23-2003, 10:58 PM
Welcome aboard Jason!

Great job on that AYA shotgun!

If you need help posting pics just give a holler.
Give Chris a nudge every now and then too!...:D

Tim

Don Cowles
06-24-2003, 06:49 AM
Hi, Jason- Fine work, and we are glad to have you with us!

Jamey Saunders
06-24-2003, 09:05 AM
Beautiful work, Jason. I'm in awe of you guys (and gals) who can do this kind of work. I couldn't draw something like that on paper with a pencil, and you do it on metal with a sharp piece of metal. Just amazing.

engraverjay2
06-24-2003, 02:51 PM
Thanks everyone for your kind words and welcome. It is nice to know that there is a group out there like this that people can join, share, and learn from eachother.
Thanks again,
Jason:D

ron p. nott
06-25-2003, 09:38 PM
Hi Jacson and welcome aboard .. Chris has tough you well your work is beautiful .. If you need help posting pictures just give me a call ..

engraverjay2
06-25-2003, 10:58 PM
Sure Ron,
Thanks :D

whv
06-27-2003, 06:35 PM
another welcome to ckdf, jason.
well done receiver!
thanx

Joe Mason
06-27-2003, 07:10 PM
Same here, I think you do great work and look forward to see more of it.

Joe Mason

BrianT
06-28-2003, 11:08 PM
Beautiful work Jason. I would love to see a close up of your work to see the detail, but the detail appears to be so fine that I am sure that this isn't possible. Maybe you can describe the methods that you use to complete such fine work.

Thanks for posting the pics.
Brian

engraverjay2
06-29-2003, 12:22 AM
Hello,
The method I use to do the scene work is a bulino line technique that Christian DeCamillis (my boss) learned in his travels to Bottega Incisioni (translation=Engraving studio)Caesare Giovanelli's School in Italy.
It differs from dots completely and shows up much bolder and from all angles. I use a microscope And my graver is more like a 60 degree then a 90. Very narrow and pointy. Then series of hatches and cross-hatches are made and never at a 45 angle always much less of an angle. Basically when I went to Italy and studied different engravers techniques I was not learning engraving I was learning how to create colors and textures in steel. Different shades of grey from very light to very black. You have to try to make the thinest ,finest lines you can possible, parellel to each other and the spacing between determines how dark your area will be and if a darker effect is desired than a cross at 15 degrees will be nessecary.In My opinion a combo of lines and dots is the best technique for acomplishing photo realism.
Dots alone -the pics on different sites look good but if you saw them in person you have to flex it to see it. kinda like a holagram baseball card. The image can virtually disappear when flexed in light. But on the other hand you can create very soft effects using dots. for instance skin (people) is best to be dotted instead of lined to make a softer grey.
Keep in mind attention to detail if the most important of all every feather, marking, proportion has to be examined and executed.
IT is going to take some time for me to get this down on the computer in a way that makes sence so please dont fall asleep.

engraverjay2
06-29-2003, 12:54 AM
Here are a few engravers I met and learned a little from in my travels to Italy:

http://www.pedretti.com -Uses all dot and extremely beautiful.

http://www.fabbri.com
This work was done by Manrico Torcoli and in my opinion is one of the top 5 engravers in the world He uses a combination of lines and dots. and in person when examining his and pedretti's work, both are beautiful but Torcoli's showes up bolder.


http://www.creativeart.it/
Another mix of lines and dots.

[url]http://www.giovanelliengraving.com
Christians school-His teacher Dario Cortini uses almost all lines and his work is clearly up to the same level is the rest.

I think It comes down to a few main things creating "color" (White to black) attention to detail, Proportions and knowing you cant smudge like in drawing when shading and blending it has to be with lines and/or dots like pen and ink.

engraverjay2
06-29-2003, 01:11 AM
I tried to go in and edit but it wont come up on the forum screen the way it is in the reply screen so any way:

Christians school is:www.giovanelliengraving.com
Not creative art but they are cool too;)

engraverjay2
06-29-2003, 03:36 PM
The easiest way to learn any and all of these bulino techniques is to take Christian's Bulino class at GRS. I am pretty sure it is the only one in the US like it.
I think this mabe more help than my ramblings but I'll try to answer any questions I can.

BrianT
06-30-2003, 10:37 AM
Jason

Thanks for all the info. Mow much magnification do you use?

Brian

engraverjay2
06-30-2003, 01:15 PM
I have a stereo zoom meji microscope from GRS its range is from 3.5x to 22.5x. depending on what I'm doing depends on how much I zoom. scroll not so much, backround I like to get real close,
Bulino real real close. Best investment I ever made.